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What is THE BEST bacterial and fungal treatment products out there?
Old 12-20-2010, 04:30 PM   #11
 
i find melafix and primafix to be very basic, they are designed to treat a braod spectrum of diseases with as little adverse harm to the fish as possible, hence the tea tree smell (@mikaila, which is not so bad imo...). They are not very powerful but will mostly help boost your fish's immune system against certain diseases, it doesnt really cure anything, it just helps your fish cure itself. Thats why they can also be used to help fish regenerate fin damage, etc. Those two meds are closer to airborne for us than actual medicine like penicillin is to maracyn. When my fish start showing signs of illness, i dose with melafix or primafix depending on what kind of symptoms its exhibiting but if theres no change in a couple of days, i do the research and find the proper medicine for whatever disease is bothering my fish.
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Old 12-21-2010, 05:14 PM   #12
 
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Cornelius1208, I did my best to try to explain... there is no such thing as an overall "best" medication that can be determined without first knowing the specific problem and situation. Every situation is different and the only way to find the "right" way to treat any fish has to be specific to that fish. There can be a best for a given situation, but not all fish can tolerate all medications, so each treatment needs to be specific.

As an example: A gourami with a bacterial problem will need a very different medication than a goldfish with the same bacterial problem, and an oscar with the same problem would need something different from the other 2. Does that make sense? Without knowing a specific problem and situation there is no way to determine "the best". "The best" differs according to what you are treating and what species are being treated. For this reason it is always important to know every animal in a tank and how they each react to a specific medication, as that is the only way to find one that is safe for all... and this is also why quarantine is important because sometimes there is no safe way to treat a tank with a variety of fish in it because one species or another often can't handle the contents of a medication needed to combat an illness with another species.

I hope that makes more sense for you and answers your question. Plain and simple, "the best" when generalized, does not exist.
Bettababy I understood what you said, I guess I didn't really word my reply very well, sorry about that. I meant what would have been the best medication for each of my fish species that would have helped treat the problem that occured in my tank. If that ever happens again, I'd like to know what to get to thwart it before it get's out of hand.

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i find melafix and primafix to be very basic, they are designed to treat a braod spectrum of diseases with as little adverse harm to the fish as possible, hence the tea tree smell (@mikaila, which is not so bad imo...). They are not very powerful but will mostly help boost your fish's immune system against certain diseases, it doesnt really cure anything, it just helps your fish cure itself. Thats why they can also be used to help fish regenerate fin damage, etc. Those two meds are closer to airborne for us than actual medicine like penicillin is to maracyn. When my fish start showing signs of illness, i dose with melafix or primafix depending on what kind of symptoms its exhibiting but if theres no change in a couple of days, i do the research and find the proper medicine for whatever disease is bothering my fish.
Thanks SinCrisis, it makes more sense that Melafix and Pimafix would act as a booster, as opposed to a direct treatment. Thanks for putting that together for me!
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Old 12-22-2010, 12:59 AM   #13
 
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If one is careful to quarantine new fish, Select fish that will thrive with water you have with respect to pH,GH,and KH, perform regular tank maint, and they don't overstock or overfeed the fish,then one can reduce the need for many medications.
With that said,, Maracyn, and Maracyn II will treat a wide range of gram negative and gram positive Bacteria and are far more effective than Melafix or Pimafix which are little more than snake oils in my view.Maracyn medication will affect biological filter when used so care must be taken to follow directions to the letter with respect to dosing and monitor water conditions during medication for possible ammonia ,nitrite spikes .(opinions vary)
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Old 12-22-2010, 08:15 AM   #14
 
Just a quick addition to 1077's suggestions, using meds like maracyn will require you to remove your carbon if you use carbon. after you finish dosing, re-introduce carbon to help absorb and eliminate any traces of the meds after your water change.
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Old 12-22-2010, 09:59 AM   #15
 
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Just a quick addition to 1077's suggestions, using meds like maracyn will require you to remove your carbon if you use carbon. after you finish dosing, re-introduce carbon to help absorb and eliminate any traces of the meds after your water change.
+one, I forget sometimes that carbon is used by many.
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Old 12-22-2010, 10:06 AM   #16
 
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If one is careful to quarantine new fish, Select fish that will thrive with water you have with respect to pH,GH,and KH, perform regular tank maint, and they don't overstock or overfeed the fish,then one can reduce the need for many medications.
With that said,, Maracyn, and Maracyn II will treat a wide range of gram negative and gram positive Bacteria and are far more effective than Melafix or Pimafix which are little more than snake oils in my view.Maracyn medication will affect biological filter when used so care must be taken to follow directions to the letter with respect to dosing and monitor water conditions during medication for possible ammonia ,nitrite spikes .(opinions vary)
I agree with this 100%, as far as certain meds being "snake oils". Personally, Melafix and Pimafix will never find their way to my medicine shelf, after all the research I have done on these products. JMHO.
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