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post #11 of 17 Old 04-14-2009, 09:40 PM Thread Starter
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Just got home from night class and found the platy wrapped around the filter intake. I pushed him off and he swam a little but is now on the bottom of the tank. Barely Alive.
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post #12 of 17 Old 04-15-2009, 09:28 AM
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Thank you so much for all of the information. Basically, there is nothing I can really do for my platy except for continue the cycle process and purchase "cycle"?

I have searched my local stores and cannot find it so I am searching the inernet.

If he dies, will the fry be enough to coninue the cycle with?
Where do you live? "Cycle" is made by Hagen/Nutrafin and is available in every fish store I've been in. There are other similar products although I've not had reason to use them and don't know specific names. Basically it is an inert bacteria liquid that when added to an aquarium immediately introduces bacteria to quick-start the nitrogen cycle (the "cycling" of new tanks). When you cycle new tanks with fish it is indespensible in my view, I've never had any fish loss when I've used it.

I doubt the adult platy will survive. Poisoning by ammonia or nitrite is severe to fish, and some do manage to pull through while others can appear to be coping but gradually weaken. The internal damage is something that we can't remedy once it occurs, and the fish just succumbs.

What is the nitrite reading now (it was 1 on Sunday in your first post)?

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post #13 of 17 Old 04-15-2009, 12:43 PM Thread Starter
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It was slightly darker than 1 yesterday, and it still looks about the same color today.

Ph: still 7.2
Temp: Right at 77 degrees F
Nitrites: Slightly darker than 1
Ammonia: 0
(tank size: 10 Gallons)


I ordered Tetrafin Cycle off of amazon and hoping it will be here soon. I live in Montana and there isn't a huge variety of stores in this little city. All of the chains store I went to didn't have it. One even told me that I don't need to "cycle" my tank. The one ma and pa LFS I could go to has a horrible reputation for treatment of animals.

If the adult platy doesn't make it. Will the food for and waste produced from the fry be enough to continue my cycle?


Ugh.. I feel like a failure watching him try to swim.
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It was slightly darker than 1 yesterday, and it still looks about the same color today.

Ph: still 7.2
Temp: Right at 77 degrees F
Nitrites: Slightly darker than 1
Ammonia: 0
(tank size: 10 Gallons)


I ordered Tetrafin Cycle off of amazon and hoping it will be here soon. I live in Montana and there isn't a huge variety of stores in this little city. All of the chains store I went to didn't have it. One even told me that I don't need to "cycle" my tank. The one ma and pa LFS I could go to has a horrible reputation for treatment of animals.

If the adult platy doesn't make it. Will the food for and waste produced from the fry be enough to continue my cycle?


Ugh.. I feel like a failure watching him try to swim.
In my view the tank is still cycling (it takes anywhere from 2-8 weeks). You've gone through the ammonia stage and are now in the nitrite stage. All you can do is wait it out. Partial water changes can help, 30% daily, don't vaccum the gravel (it will remove the bacteria you are trying to establish). If the adult platy dies, remove it immediately and the cycling will continue although the bacteria will obviously be fewer with less food (ammonia for the nitrosomonas and nitrite for the nitrobacter bacteria).

At that point (having removed the dead adult platy) I would add a bit of fish food (amount you would feed the adult platys) and this will break down and provide ammonia for the nitrosomonas and so forth. The baby platy might just make it, but he won't provide much ammonia so the food will help the cycling. When the nitrite reads 0 for a couple of days (and the ammonia will remain at 0 from now on I would hope) the tank is "cycled" for the bioload it contains. As the platy grows the bacteria will multiply accordingly, though small obviously, and the tank will stabilize. Then you'll be ready for more fish if that's what you want, but only a couple at a time so as not to overload the system suddenly and create a mini-cycle. Bacteria multiply fairly rapidly once established to keep up with their food source, but too much too suddenly can crash the cycle.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If youíre going to take it under your wing then youíre responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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post #15 of 17 Old 04-15-2009, 03:44 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you so very much Byron. I feel like I understand this a lot better. I expect that the adult platy will not make it to tomorrow. But the little guy is seems to be toughing it out.

You've been so much help.
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post #16 of 17 Old 04-16-2009, 02:08 AM
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aww i hope the little guy pulls through,
good luck with him.

when you set up a new tank,hide an extra
sponge or two behind some decor,that way you have
something seeded for you next filter.
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post #17 of 17 Old 04-16-2009, 09:46 AM
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Thank you so very much Byron. I feel like I understand this a lot better. I expect that the adult platy will not make it to tomorrow. But the little guy is seems to be toughing it out.

You've been so much help.
You are very welcome. Keep us posted, we all wish you good luck. Byron.

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