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post #11 of 15 Old 04-19-2013, 03:44 PM
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Did you quarantine the new fish?

It would be best to not feed the fish until the water quality issue is fixed, which should be within a week. No need to add to the problem.

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post #12 of 15 Old 04-19-2013, 04:01 PM
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i know its from the ammonia.. im talking about inside them.. what in their body causes this
my limited understanding - ammonia irratates tissue especially delicate gill filaments which thicken, clump together, and can even hemorrhage (hyperplasia). This reduces the fish's ability to absorb oxygen. It also limits the fish's ability to expel ammonia; the natural biproduct of digesting proteins. Consequently, internal tissues are effected and would guess this might cause the red streaks. Maybe dont feed for a bit, especially high protein feed.

what is the pH? i know it's borderline anethema to the prevailing opinions on this site but might suggest to attempt to slowly lower the pH to further reduce the toxic NH3. Lowering temperature can also help but to a lesser degree.

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my limited understanding - ammonia irratates tissue especially delicate gill filaments which thicken, clump together, and can even hemorrhage (hyperplasia). This reduces the fish's ability to absorb oxygen. It also limits the fish's ability to expel ammonia; the natural biproduct of digesting proteins. Consequently, internal tissues are effected and would guess this might cause the red streaks. Maybe dont feed for a bit, especially high protein feed.

what is the pH? i know it's borderline anethema to the prevailing opinions on this site but might suggest to attempt to slowly lower the pH to further reduce the toxic NH3. Lowering temperature can also help but to a lesser degree.
Best to just add prime and change water as prime detoxs ammonia completely as well as nitrite and nitrate which is a better solution than just trying to lower the pH to increase the ammonium/ammonia ratio.

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from the explination of the ammonia poisoning, might be something that may go away once the irritation stops. or then again it may be hemmrogeing and ireversable
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post #15 of 15 Old 04-21-2013, 08:41 AM Thread Starter
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Yesterday I was away from home all day helping my mother move. I'm talking 4am to 8 or 9pm. I had gotten up late so I had to rush out the door. I didn't have time to check up on any of my babies. I had to get my BIL to feed/walk the dog.
Got home/checked up on my babies. Cat/dog still alive. But....we lost an angel. It was one of my silver stripes :( Ammonia tested at either 0 or really really low. But I still did their 50% water change. A few weeks after the cycle balances back out I'll get another angel. I want to have 6 in case they pair up, it won't be only 1 picked on.

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