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post #1 of 15 Old 04-19-2013, 10:12 AM Thread Starter
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Ugh! Ammonia....

I did a bad thing. I doubled my rummy nose tetras too soon. I went from 12 to 23 the next day. I caught the spike this morning and did a 50% water change. Note, I tested the water yesterday as well because I lost my senior kuhli. Nothing was out of the ordinary yesterday.

As a result of this spike, I noted red streaking on my angels. I feel horrible. Will they recover from the streaking? Should I return half of my rummy school?

I just feel absolutely horrible and I should of known better.

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post #2 of 15 Old 04-19-2013, 10:44 AM
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Treat with prime every day until the spike clears. You will have a nitrite spike later as well as this is the entire nitrogen cycle re-balancing itself. Last time I added an extra batch of fish I added a whole mess of duckweed to help handle the extra load.

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post #3 of 15 Old 04-19-2013, 12:03 PM
Prime and lots and lots of water changes.

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post #4 of 15 Old 04-19-2013, 12:08 PM Thread Starter
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After forcing myself to think a bit more. I realize returning the fish may solve my problem. But this is my fault and I need to fix it. It wouldn't be fair to the school to return them and the stress of moving back may even make them sick/become an issue for the seller.

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50% everyday for a week is advised correct?

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post #6 of 15 Old 04-19-2013, 12:14 PM
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After forcing myself to think a bit more. I realize returning the fish may solve my problem. But this is my fault and I need to fix it. It wouldn't be fair to the school to return them and the stress of moving back may even make them sick/become an issue for the seller.
I was thinking along the same lines. Prime and changes will handle it. Keep in mind that the nitrite spike may not show for two weeks though and you need to keep on top of that as well. That's why it's good to leave two to three weeks between new additions.

50% per day would be good. At least you don't really need to bother testing for nitrates with those changes... all that bottle shaking can be avoided.

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post #7 of 15 Old 04-19-2013, 12:33 PM
you don't really need to test for nitrates regardless. Just ammonia and nitrite. I would expect a nitrite spike within the first week. Mini cycles are much faster then a typical cycle. Also there is no limit to water changes, but 50% is a good start. Do whatever you need to keep ammonia and nitrite levels down.

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post #8 of 15 Old 04-19-2013, 01:56 PM
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you don't really need to test for nitrates regardless. Just ammonia and nitrite. I would expect a nitrite spike within the first week. Mini cycles are much faster then a typical cycle. Also there is no limit to water changes, but 50% is a good start. Do whatever you need to keep ammonia and nitrite levels down.
+1

and to touch on the ammonia poisoning, im thinking the streaks should go away once the ammonia is removed. a question I would have is why the streaks even appear in the first place- might lead to the answer of if they will go away or not.
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post #9 of 15 Old 04-19-2013, 02:28 PM Thread Starter
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I believe the streaks appeared because of the ammonia. It registered to around 2ppm. Angels are more sensitive to ammonia levels.

They're also clamping up a bit, I hope they relax and perk up a bit tomorrow. I'm gonna give them a few-ish days for those issues to disappear a bit.

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post #10 of 15 Old 04-19-2013, 02:30 PM
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i know its from the ammonia.. im talking about inside them.. what in their body causes this
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