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Spiky red parasite(?) on anus of black neon tetra

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Spiky red parasite(?) on anus of black neon tetra
Old 04-02-2012, 12:11 PM   #31
 
Somebody showed me this:
Vermisol, 100 Grams
I'm going to order some from them.

BTW, on my mosquitofish tank, I lost several fish while I concentrated on the DGs. I relocated them all to a 5g tank with some fry and then changed 90% of the water in their tank. I filled it up and put them back and they did just like your fish with the gasping at the surface, and this after a better than 90% change. I now have what's left of them back with the fry until I can scour out their tank and then I'll have to re-cycle it. :( The same with the 20g tank I had the DGs in. The meds worked, almost killed all my fish, but they seem to have worked.
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Old 04-02-2012, 12:14 PM   #32
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Wow, sorry to hear that. Sounds eerily similar to my experience. Did it appear to have a deworming effect on the fish? Did they poop white? Do you happen to know the concentration? .8g sounds like allot of meds for 10 gallons unless it's diluted some. This page recommends 13ppm in the tank:
Treating Your water with Levamisole
.8g of pure levamisole in 10 gallons is a little over 21ppm, about 50% over what the other page recommends.

My fish have somehow miraculously escaped death, including the big blue one with the bumps. He slowly and continuously pooped for several days, bumps going down but now completely away. Then yesterday I happened to look in and saw a 3-4" long piece of white poop hanging from him. I guess he finally cleared the obstruction and the bumps were completely gone. It took all of them until yesterday to recover from their meds, it really smacked them down for a few days. They all seem like they're going to be ok now, they all eat and nobody hides. The big blue one has decided to take over being alpha male now, so I guess he's feeling better. They all act starved, but I'm holding back on the food some for a few days, so they don't gorge themselves and get constipated really bad.
I didn't notice the fishes pooping..they were too pooped to eat after the ordeal.

I'll clear out my 55 gallon tank and try again on the 10 gallon...just in case I gotta transfer the fishies again. But I'm going to wait a week or so.
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Old 04-02-2012, 12:16 PM   #33
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Somebody showed me this:
Vermisol, 100 Grams
I'm going to order some from them.

BTW, on my mosquitofish tank, I lost several fish while I concentrated on the DGs. I relocated them all to a 5g tank with some fry and then changed 90% of the water in their tank. I filled it up and put them back and they did just like your fish with the gasping at the surface, and this after a better than 90% change. I now have what's left of them back with the fry until I can scour out their tank and then I'll have to re-cycle it. :( The same with the 20g tank I had the DGs in. The meds worked, almost killed all my fish, but they seem to have worked.
Sorry to hear about your fish.
Let me know if the vermisol works for you. The dealer looks like a professional one, so I'll try that one out if it works for you.
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Old 04-02-2012, 12:41 PM   #34
 
Your fish should have pooped out the worms you could see, did they at least disappear? My fish didn't want to eat for a few days, but they pooped anyway as the dead worms released their grip on the fish.
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Old 04-02-2012, 12:54 PM   #35
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Your fish should have pooped out the worms you could see, did they at least disappear? My fish didn't want to eat for a few days, but they pooped anyway as the dead worms released their grip on the fish.
No, the two fish with the worms still have the worms on thier anus...nothing has changed in the way they look. On a different note, I've got a few neon tetras that have stomachs that look lumpy and bloated. Do you think they might have worms in them too?
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Old 04-02-2012, 02:18 PM   #36
 
afremont the issue with that link is its not considering the actual % levamisole. That link is correct for whatever purity they are using, but they don't say what it is. It could be 90% or maybe a 70% powder. I mentioned the ebay stuff as being questionable as it does not look anything like mine. If it was very diluted then that would explain the much higher dosage. However your description of its effects are not at all like levamisole. It should not cloud or stress fish or snails at all. My fish still eat everything when I add the med my snails behave normally.

In comparison below is what I have always used. My levamisole was produced by Agrilabs and I believe they no longer make it.






The ebay seller is selling a white powder as levamisole. I suggested it may not be levamisole because it does not look like it nor does the dosage or instructions match up.

Let us know how the second trial of the ebay stuff goes. If its still a flop I might be able to send you some of what I have if you want to try it. It is expired but was still working 6 months ago. Other then that I can just suggest the bird dewormer or ask a vet. I'm pretty sure the main reason its so hard to get levamisole these days is because it is increasingly found in cocaine. I bought mine in 07' or 08' off a shelf in my local fleetfarm. Now its almost impossible to fine anywhere for a decent price. Next time I go to Mexico..... >.>
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Old 04-02-2012, 02:45 PM   #37
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afremont the issue with that link is its not considering the actual % levamisole. That link is correct for whatever purity they are using, but they don't say what it is. It could be 90% or maybe a 70% powder. I mentioned the ebay stuff as being questionable as it does not look anything like mine. If it was very diluted then that would explain the much higher dosage. However your description of its effects are not at all like levamisole. It should not cloud or stress fish or snails at all. My fish still eat everything when I add the med my snails behave normally.

In comparison below is what I have always used. My levamisole was produced by Agrilabs and I believe they no longer make it.

The ebay seller is selling a white powder as levamisole. I suggested it may not be levamisole because it does not look like it nor does the dosage or instructions match up.

Let us know how the second trial of the ebay stuff goes. If its still a flop I might be able to send you some of what I have if you want to try it. It is expired but was still working 6 months ago. Other then that I can just suggest the bird dewormer or ask a vet. I'm pretty sure the main reason its so hard to get levamisole these days is because it is increasingly found in cocaine. I bought mine in 07' or 08' off a shelf in my local fleetfarm. Now its almost impossible to fine anywhere for a decent price. Next time I go to Mexico..... >.>
Thanks Mikaila.
I think that even if the stuff I got was levamisole, I have no idea what filler material they used. I am now having second thoughts on even trying it a second time. Its too bad that the stuff is no longer manufactured by reputable companies.
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Old 04-03-2012, 12:10 PM   #38
 
Here is a seemingly good read on dosing Levamisole:
Levamisole Hydrochloride — Loaches Online

He recommends 2ppm for 24 hours. I'm going to get some from igo-pro and use that for my next treatment instead of continuing the fenbendazole.
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Old 04-24-2012, 10:10 AM   #39
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Here is a seemingly good read on dosing Levamisole:
Levamisole Hydrochloride — Loaches Online

He recommends 2ppm for 24 hours. I'm going to get some from igo-pro and use that for my next treatment instead of continuing the fenbendazole.
Hi,
I was wondering if you got the meds you were planning to get from igo-pro. How are your fishies?
~Ami
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