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Sick Female Guppy, Please help!
Old 06-26-2010, 06:16 PM   #11
 
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I was researching brackish tanks for a while and one guy had acclimated his colorful guppies to the salt water. This can open a lot of avenues as far a strange bedfellow tanks.

I'm not much of an aficionado when it comes to guppies. I just get what's pretty.
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Old 06-26-2010, 06:26 PM   #12
 
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my mom took a sw fish as a adolecent and it grew up in a fw pond ??? guess fish do get used to the surroundings 0.0
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Old 06-26-2010, 06:32 PM   #13
 
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Very few fish can branch over from one end to the other. Do your research and learn how experienced fishheads do it. The article I saw said the guy went slowly, like 6 months slow, suffered many casualties, but eventually succeeded.
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Old 06-26-2010, 06:47 PM   #14
 
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many casualties??? i don't think i could be that cruel to use guppies in experiments.it's just like those lab people testing stuff on innocent animals.
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Old 06-28-2010, 08:17 AM   #15
 
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My hospital tank is/was a ten gallon bare bottom tank with a plain jane ten gallon filter. I kept it at 78 degrees. You can set up a smaller one if you need to. The point is simply to have a cycled place for them to go. I keep one healthy fish in the tank to keep it from growing dormant, and will pull her out if I need to treat anything in it.

If it's new you can seed it with a filter cartridge fresh from your current tank.
I've bought a new tank now, which I'll either use as a hospital tank or one to re-home the guppy males. My female died over the weekend, unfortunately :( But to be honest I wasn't expecting her to recover. The tank is an Aqua One Aqua Start 320 (29 litre capacity), and it comes with and Aqua One Maxi 101F filter (which doesn't have any biological sponges, as far as I can tell, but is "fine" for the size of tank that this is - is this the case?). I'd like to cycle it as soon as possible and was wondering what the best way to do that is. At the moment I've put some stones and other media from my current tank in there, some water from my current tank (and the rest topped up with de-chlorinated tap water) and have the filter running and the temperature at 25 degrees C.

I've heard of fishless cycling, but I'm not sure where I would get ammonia from etc.

After showing my LFS some picture of my guppies they say that 2 of them appear to have fin rot and I should treat them with Waterlife Myxazin Fin Rot & Bacterial (or something like that, I'm at work at the moment and the bottle of meds is at home!).

So ideally I'd like to cycle my tank asap, then put my 4 guppy males in there for treatment and let that be their new home.

Please let me know if you think this is a good idea and what the best way to go about it is.

Thank you very much :)
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Old 06-28-2010, 10:06 AM   #16
 
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i don't think you should add water from he main tank as you said the fishes are suffering from fin rot there.it's kinda contaminated with the parasite.you should try to set up the new tank with de-chlorinated tap water and let it run for a few days with a carbon filter.carbon removes a lot of unwanted stuff from the tank. after that remove the carbon and add the fish and medicine according to what the it says on the package.don't know whether people do it this way but it works for me
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Old 06-29-2010, 12:04 AM   #17
 
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In terms of filters and seeding a new tank etc.

Basically all the hard bodies (filter, walls, substrate, decor) all have the beneficial bacteria on them. Putting that int eh tank sans fish will only succeed in depleting that BB that you seeded.

What I do for new tanks is set it up, or in the case of the hospital tank, plug it in. Then I place one or two hardy fish in there. After a day or so I seed the tank with a filter (a hard body containing BB). If it is not the same kind as the new tank filter, simply drop it in there.

It does not take very long for the BB to propagate and it will do so according to the needs of the tank.

In your case, I'd go ahead and put the sick fish in the new tank and start treating them ASAP. Carbon will neutralize the medicine, don't use that. If you use a water conditioner such as Seacham's Prime, it will remove nearly everything from the water and is not harmful to the sick fishies.

Give it a day, then seed the tank.

This is not a spontaneous cycle but it can cut it down very quickly. In my 16 gallon tanks they were leveled after only a week.
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Old 06-29-2010, 05:14 AM   #18
 
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Would agree with treatment of guppies in seperate tank.
Would also note that Male guppies in absence of numerous females, may continue to nip fins of other males as I attempted to point out in another thread.
Also note that tetras too,, often nip the fins of guppies and other fishes with long flowing fins.
Once fins are damaged, they can heal but ammonia and nitrites must read zero. Otherwise,,all the medications you wish to use will be ineffective. Non zero ammonia and nitrite readings are stressful to lethal for fishes and fishes under stress often succumb to various ailments including fin rot which can lead to secondary infections if water quality is suffering.
Is possible that fin nipping in this instance by male guppies or also tetras,combined with elevated nitrite levels worked to compromise the immune system of the fishes and led to possible infection though photos of male guppies I saw ,did not indicate this.
Also entirely possible that the female guppy, like the first female guppy, was stressed by the attentions of numerous males and succumbed literally from the stress.Four females to each male guppy is recommended.
Would also submit that the approx 16 gal Juwel Rekord? that the fishes were originally in , may not by design,, have sufficient surface area for beneficial bacteria to colonize in proportion to numbers of fish if they are too numerous. Might consider adding small sponge filter in addition to the filter built into the hood of the rekford if indeed this is the tank that housed or is housing the fish.
Would also consider that that neon tetras don't last long in hard alkaline waters that guppies enjoy and they like cooler temps than guppies and perhaps the black neon's loosing color would be an indication that water did not suit them.
Is often a snowball effect when water quality is compromised which leads to health issues with fishes we keep. Fishes placed perhaps unknowingly in unsuitable conditions (ie) poor compatibilty with other fishes, poor male to female ratio's , and most commonly,,, fishes that don't share same requirements with regards to water chemistry.
I have been responsible for the death of fishes too numerous to mention while learning that taking care of your water ,and researching the fishes needs before purchasing can save much frustration.
Study the fishes water chemistry needs,diets,compatibility with other fishes,and use quarantine tank for new fishes. Has worked well for me.
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Old 07-12-2010, 05:22 AM   #19
 
Thank you for your help, everyone. My guppies are now in a new tank and seem to be doing well. So thank you very much :)
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