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Siamese Fighting Fish - 1 large eye, unhealthy look
Old 01-18-2007, 07:53 PM   #11
 
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Take a look at the active ingredients in those 2 medications... if you see the same things listed, you could be overdosing him. I wouldn't use both of those meds together (at same time). Overdosing can cause as much harm as not giving him anything at all.
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Old 01-19-2007, 08:29 AM   #12
 
Just do what everyone has told you. Keep him in warm water, do 50% daily water changes, continue treating him THE CORRECT AMOUNT of meds, and do not put him down. Many fish live through these sorts of things; don't give up.
Good luck,
Kathryn

P.S Also make sure he has a varied diet of both flake and live food such as bloodworm and brineshrimp. :)
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:24 PM   #13
 
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I would suggest the betta pellet food over the flakes. Many bettas won't eat the flake food. If your fish eats flake, you'll want to make sure it's "betta flake food" and not just standard tropical flakes... the standard tropical flake food doesn't hold enough for nutritional content for a betta.
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Old 01-21-2007, 06:10 AM   #14
 
Well, he's still alive. Minis his right fin and half the lower fin.

He is currently on Fungus Eliminator and Methylene Blue.

Now the water is blue it's really difficult to see him (he is also blue)

One thing that concerns me are he water changes you have all been recommeding. If the medicine is in the water and I change 20% does this mean I have to put more medicine in to compensate?

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Old 01-21-2007, 02:30 PM   #15
 
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With the water changes, they should be done with fresh medicated water. It is much easier to dose both of those meds if you work with a larger container of water (3 gallon bucket) with a cover on it. Use the water, then cover it and use it for the next change, also. The prepared water can be used safely for 24 hrs after mixing it. Be very careful NOT TO OVERDOSE these meds. The fungus eliminator has salt in it, and too much of either of those meds could cause more harm than good.

After a week of using the medicated water, then do the water changes with fresh unmedicated water, the color will come out as the meds are dilluted.
Give him a good week after meds with clean water, good food, and warm temps and see if he hasn't begun recovering yet. If not, let me know because there is one other medication that is safe and effective on the bettas, but it's a bit more potent than the 2 you are currently using, so I hesitated to suggest it because of the fish's current condition. I was afraid that it would be too strong for him in this state.

I have had great luck with the 2 meds you are using now, as have the others I have coached through this sort of problem. I have spent many years researching the bettas and the various meds available. Many of the fungus and bacterial problems seen now days in the bettas are resistant to most common meds on the market.

There used to be an awesome med on the market for the bettas, but it was made by Aquatronics, who went out of business a couple of years ago. I have heard that Jungle Pet Supplies has picked up the patent on these meds, but I have as of yet to see them on the market again. When these meds were no longer available, I spent months doing the research to come up with a comparable mixture of ingredients to mimic the old medication. The fungus eliminator and methy blue combination was as close as I could get. If you ever have the chance to purchase a medication called "spectrogram", grab some... it's always useful when keeping bettas and probably the most effective med I have ever found for their bacterial and fungal issues.

Good Luck and let me know if you need any further help.
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Old 01-25-2007, 07:12 AM   #16
 
Well, he's still alive.

I recently placed in some fresh water and am treating with the anti fungus meds. Some thing's I have noticed:

-He is swimming around a lot more
-He is eating (but not very much)
-Sometimes he tries to hit the heating device with his body (really quickly)
-I am not sure about this (because of the methayne blue in the tank), but maybe his left fin has grown just a little.
-His eye remains the same - really big. Something tells me he is stuck with it.

I am getting a proper filter for my fish tank soon and am getting rid of the underwater gravel filter - in my opinion these underwater gravel filters do not clean the water thoroughly.

Any advice as to how I should continue with Leon as he cannot stay on meds forever?

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Old 01-25-2007, 09:06 PM   #17
 
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I would give Leon a good week on the meds, then switch back to using just clean water, but keep doing the water changes every day to every other day for a couple of weeks. He's going to need the clean water to heal properly. Don't give up on the eye problem just yet, either... I have seen some fish recover completely from things like this. Time and a lot of TLC is what he needs now. If his appetite is down, then decrease the amount of food you offer him at one time. As he begins to feel better, his appetite should pick back up.
As for the heater, what he might be seeing is his reflection in the glass... and thus attacking the other fish he's seeing. If this is what he's doing, that is a good sign, it means he feels up to a fight. A lot of times you can tell just by sitting back and watching for a while.
Watch for any new symptoms to deveolop, just in case, but it sounds as if he's on his way back to recovery.
Good Luck to you both!
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Old 02-04-2007, 11:27 AM   #18
 
Leon died today :(

He jumped out of his tank the other day and I rescued him, but he deteriorated really quickly after that.

It's a shame, but I did all I could and treated him the best medicine.

I now have a really good filter that should keep the water cleaner for a new fish. Hopefully it will do a lot better job than the undergravel filter.

Thanks for all of your help.

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