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Redtail catfish wont stop swimming!!! Help
Old 02-13-2014, 06:54 PM   #11
 
ph 7.0 to 7.2 nitrite 0, ammonia 0, nitrate 0 temp is 71 degrees

UPDATE: starting to swim a little ways away from heater but still top water
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Old 02-13-2014, 07:05 PM   #12
 
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So, hardness unknown, if you don't have the test solution you can get it online from your local water company.

Your PH is just a tad too high, the temp is too low though handleable for them(I almost forgot they have a pretty good range of temps they can handle from 68-80 degrees or so, so you should be within safe ranges for him at least, the pacu needs it no lower than 72F though), and there is far, far, far from enough space in there, even with youngsters, as again the redtails need 300 gallon tanks minimum, they grow fast and need the space to do it in, your other fish also require much larger tanks.

Water parameters for the Redtail should be: pH 5.5 - 6.8 Temperature : 68F - 82F (20C - 28C) Water Hardness : 5-10 dGH. And obviously ammonia, nitrite and nitrate should be zero, nitrate is tolerable in small amounts...Tank size needs to be bigger. They really do best in large ponds, not tanks. =(

Bala sharks also get over a foot long, like groups, and need a huge amount of space. I suggest you downgrade on your fish, at least on the catfish, or upgrade to a very large pond.

Someone almost tricked me into getting one of those, but I did some research and said no way. They get so big! And are aggressive and very high energy.
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Old 02-13-2014, 07:10 PM   #13
 
my buddy is bringing me a 10 gallon heater i am gonna try and get the temp up. and the pacu and balas and cat came out of a 200 tank that got cracked(KIDS) he never had a problem until this tank.
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Old 02-13-2014, 07:24 PM   #14
 
other heater is in and temp is rising slowly i hope this is his problem
he needs to eat
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Old 02-14-2014, 06:26 AM   #15
 
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my buddy is bringing me a 10 gallon heater i am gonna try and get the temp up. and the pacu and balas and cat came out of a 200 tank that got cracked(KIDS) he never had a problem until this tank.
They need to be put back in a larger tank or you're going to be staying home doing water changes to compensate for the bioload or they will be poisoned to death. There wasn't an issue because he had room to swim in the other tank. Imagine going from living in a mansion to living in a studio apartment. You wouldn't exactly be a happy camper.

Did you test after the WC?

Don't worry about him not eating, fish can go weeks without eating and do just fine. You need to worry about the tank size much, much more.
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Old 02-14-2014, 03:55 PM   #16
 
He only had a problem after a few weeks in this tank idk whats happening i do a water change every week
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Old 02-14-2014, 05:08 PM   #17
 
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He only had a problem after a few weeks in this tank idk whats happening i do a water change every week
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Hun, we're telling you what the problem is, you're just not listening. It's tank size. Pure and simple. You must have a larger tank, even for babies of those types of fish. Must, must, must or you will have very dead fish. They need THREE HUNDRED GALLONS...and that's JUST for the catfish.

If you don't have that kind of room or money for it, or a very large pond, unless you want him to die you should find him a new home, same with your bala sharks since three of them would need...oh jeez, 200 gallons or so I think is right for three, one need 75 gallons as a minimum but they don't do well if not in pairs as you probably know having gotten three of them. 200 gallons is not, however, ok for the redtail catfish.

That's because in that small tank, he's going to be cramped, and eventually stunt. Stunting happens quick for fast growing fish. Their organs continue to grow, but their bodies stop or slow...and eventually, SLOWLY, the organs are crushed by the smaller body.

Right now, if the fish hasn't started stunting yet, the likely cause for his actions is being in a smaller tank with a bunch of other fish all requiring more space. He's crowded, he's in a tiny area, and he's not liking it.
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Old 02-15-2014, 02:03 AM   #18
 
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Do you have a nitrate filter/scrubber on this tank? If not then I suspect you have a dodgy test kit. From what you have said this tank has been heavily overstocked for a number of weeks and with a weekly 25% water change you have zero nitrates which seems impossible. It appears that you may be getting a false reading in your parameters. As others have said space is the issue here. Redtails frequently swim in this manner when they feel 'cramped' and as Sylverclaws said he will become stunted in a relatively short space of time and the results of this can be horrendous.
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Old 02-15-2014, 09:36 AM   #19
 
Should i take fish out? Woukd that help him
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:25 PM   #20
 
Update a bala was eating the cats dorsal fin... I caight him and took the other 2 balas out. They are no longer with the cat. I hope that was the problem
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