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Rebecca randomly broke out into disease??
Old 05-26-2010, 07:26 PM   #11
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:( I hope all my other fish do not get it. =(

I sometimes move my fish to different tanks, and my 44g used to be my livebearer fry tank. I was thinking of moving my angelfish into it... do u think they can catch it? =S or is it only livebearers...

this sucks.
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Old 05-26-2010, 07:29 PM   #12
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The angelfish have the potential to contract it, however, I have not seen many cases of this particular infection in angelfish. I would say its a 50/50 shot.
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Old 05-26-2010, 07:54 PM   #13
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It's tough to really have a concrete answer regarding fish disease and illness. As stated by Dawn, many fish are different. Some have good immune systems, others have poor, which would be based on genetics. Very similar to humans. For example if you are in a room with several people and one person is sick, it depends on a lot of factors if you will catch the disease, same goes with fish. The fish tank can be home to different types of pathogens that the fish are constantly being exposed to. A healthy fish with a strong immune system can easily fight off these on a regular basis; however, when something as simple as stress or genetics can significantly impair the immune system to the point where it can't fight off the pathogens. This could lead to a random outbreak of illness in one fish, or several. Other factors will always play a role too, like diet and water quality.

With all that said, I want to wish you luck as well, and try to follow what Dawn has said, it is really good advice for the set up you have. It's hard not to be discouraged.

Just remember that fish can be very resilient and surprise you with their strength to pull through. Hope things start looking better for you.
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Old 06-04-2010, 05:38 AM   #14
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Well, Rebecca has seemed to heal! Which is very surprising in that little 1g tank without a filter! (I know it wasn't the best place to keep her but I couldn't risk her giving it to ALL my other fish and having them ALL die.)

But ya, she seems totally better. Her fin is a bit damaged still, but no signs of rotting or infection and it seems to be growing back. Is the disease just like dormant at the moment, or could she be cured? :D

I am going to move her back into the 29g.... All the other fish had been exposed to it already either way, and she seems better......... so wish me luck.

Let me know if this is a bad idea.... I can take her out again probably.
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Old 06-04-2010, 12:48 PM   #15
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If she is returned to the tank, the liklihood that the other livebearing fish will catch it is high. And, yes, I do believe it will come back again. This infection comes and goes for some time and it weakens the fish's immune system a little more each time. Eventually it will show up and stay obvious until the fish dies, unless it is successfully treated with medication. The other thing I can tell you is that treatment needs to be done during an outbreak where you see the lesions. The lesions don't need to be present for the other fish to catch it, so I would keep a close eye on them all.
I would suggest moving the infected fish to a quarantine tank the next time you notice lesions. As for how long until you see it again, that depends on the immune system of the fish.

The only other thing I can offer you at this time is that this illness doesn't always kill the fish right away. I have had and seen fish that have lived with this condition for a number of years. Treatment is very difficult, but it is possible to treat the fish with the right combination of appropriate meds... if done in quarantine. Sometimes it takes a few treatments using various different meds until you find the one that works. This is in part due to the way live bearing fishes respond to medications, but also in part because this illness is very resistant to many meds. The only way to better predict which meds will be effective is to get a scraping under the scope. Unfortunately, internet makes that feat near impossible for most such things. The only place I can think of that you may find the ability to do that is via an aquatic vet in your area, if there is one. A standard vet that doesn't specialize in aquatics will have no idea what to do for you, and most of them will openly tell you that they just don't know... a few will offer treatment options, but more often than not you end up with a lot of dead fish that way. Vets not specializing in aquatics are not aware of the many different sensitivities that different species of fish have to specific medications.

If you go looking for an aquatic vet be prepared to spend some money... they are not cheap.

I wish you the best of luck. If you need any further help please don't hesitate to ask.
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Old 06-04-2010, 09:04 PM   #16
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Thanks.... Well, I don't know what to do with her as I don't have a quarantine tank... I can't afford to set one up right now either. :(

As for a veterinarian... I think the cost is just too high, and the odds that the stress taking the fish there and back will kill it, and the likeliness it will not be cured make it not likely to be worth it. :(

2 options I see possible:

Euthanizing her or
Leaving her in the 29g tank.

I could put her back in the 1g tank floating in the 10g tank, but this just doesn't seem like a good long term solution. If the disease is not easily cured, and I know no way to cure it, and it takes a long time to kill the fish, It's pointless to keep her in the 1g tank until she finally dies.

It seems likely to me, that the other fish would have been exposed to whatever disease this is since she was probably in there for a day while she had visible signs of illness - and probably had it evem before that?

I hope it doesn't kill off my entire aquarium's stock...
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