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Please help! Horrible case of Columnaris
Old 07-25-2012, 11:53 PM   #31
 
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The more I thought about it, the more I realized he meant not to treat the 55 for Columnaris. Relief! I've got the tanks up to 84 degrees and added salt to both, so here's to hoping it works. I still don't know if I'll do a second course of treatment on the bettas, as they are not liking this at all, and I'm really afraid of pushing it too much, so when this course is done (today, actually), I'll put them back in the 55 tomorrow and just see how they do. I just don't feel its safe to do another course. I did the water change today, and they looked so relieved and like they felt they could breathe again!

Will this never end? You won't believe this, but today, I have a platy that is in the hospital tank that looks like a pinecone. I went to net her, and could see from above. I have read this is not good, and is a sign she has kidney damage (I'm guessing from the Columnaris) and won't make it in the long run. I treated her to begin with because she was listless and not hanging out with the others, and not eating well. So I guess I know why now. I feel so bad for her. She never got any white spots on her lip or elsewhere, so I guess it manifested itself internally. I feel very bad that there is nothing I can do for her. So its just one thing after another. Thanks so much for double checking with Snap.
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Old 07-26-2012, 02:45 AM   #32
 
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Oh no! Not another one!

Ugh, doesn't it almost feel like you should just start over?

I really hope she doesn't pass, and that your fishums come through this alright...

Wouldn't it be better if we could get them to take robitussin and call it a day? Lol
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Old 07-26-2012, 05:07 AM   #33
 
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Poor little Platy! Hopefully he will be the last little guy to have a problem in all of this. . .
Here is some info I've found about temperature treating for Ich:
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"It has been found that Ich does not infect new fish at 29.4C/85F (Johnson, 1976), stops reproducing at 30C/86F (Dr. Nick St. Erne, DVM, pers. comm.), and dies at 32C/89.5F (Meyer, 1984)"
I just wanted to double-check because you said your tank was up to 84, and everything I've read has agreed that 86 is the temperature you're trying to achieve when treating for this awful yuck. I'm not really a trustworthy source, but I've seen the number repeated time and time again. Snappy was traveling yesterday (I think) so hopefully will have a chance to come back and clarify for us again sometime today.


This will be done soon, and happy fish will abound!



Liza, lol on Robitussin. . . wouldn't that be nice? Take two tabs and call me in the morning. . . the plus side, the ONLY plus side, is how much one learns through a situation like this one. It's just a shame that the price is so high. . .
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:17 PM   #34
 
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The bettas are back in the 55, and I'm working the temp up to 86. Makes me nervous--I know cories and platies are uncomfortable in that much heat, but its the only way to get rid of it, and I sure don't want to be using any more meds!

The platy in the hospital tank just lays there most of the time, no energy. She doesn't want to eat, and I think she's miserable. I wonder if I should euthanize her in the freezer? I really, really don't want to, but if she's not going to recover, why let her go through prolonged suffering?
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Old 07-26-2012, 11:31 PM   #35
 
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Aww, sweetie *wince* I'm sorry! That is a torturous decision if ever there was one, made even more so by all that she (and you) have just been through. Whatever you choose, I'm sure you'll do right by her.

And I know. . . none of them are comfortable right now - with or without the heat, really. You're in a bind. . . darned if you do, darned if you don't. All you can do is the best you can do. . . until this is over - and you're doing that already. . .

Keep on keepin' on. . .it WON'T be much longer, now. . .
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Old 07-27-2012, 10:37 PM   #36
 
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Well, now one of my balloon Mollies is acting weird. No spots or anything on her, and her mouth looks fine, but she's hiding under some plants, and she NEVER does that. So I have a feeling she's going to come down with it very soon. Maybe she's just resting, I don't know. I've just never had a Molly that would go off by herself. Right now she's in front with the others, but her fins are clamped. I think she was shimmying while she was hiding. I've just about had it. Every time I think its over, something else happens. I could hardly be any more discouraged.
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Old 07-27-2012, 11:59 PM   #37
 
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Take heart, dear. . . think of the ones that are still fighting and winning! Look at THEM, and *try* to take encouragement. . . I know how upsetting all of this is for you, but I don't want to see you lose sight of what you love about keeping fish in the first place. I'm so sorry. . . I wish I had something more to offer you. *hugs*
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Old 07-28-2012, 11:42 PM   #38
 
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Good news--the balloon Molly isn't sick after all. She was just wanting to go to "bed," as it was 9pm, her bedtime, lol. She's acting perfectly fine today, up front with the rest and eating as only a balloon Molly can!

As for my platy, I just didn't have the heart to euthanize her and now I'm glad I didn't! She looked better this morning, and I saw that her "pinecone body" was not as spikey. There was definitely an improvement, plus she was a bit more active. So I did a 50% WC on her tank today, vac'd the gravel and added salt (1 tablespoon per 5 gallons). I noticed her looking at little bits of debris after the WC, as if hopeful it might be food. So I thawed her some bloodworms, and she ate three! I was just thrilled. After that, she has much more energy, and is no longer mostly sitting on the bottom, but actually swimming, something she hasn't done since she went into the hospital tank. She hadn't eaten in over a week, so I can't tell you how happy I am.

I don't want to get my hopes up though, as I've read that once they pinecone, they usually don't pull through. But maybe she can get a few more good months? Let's hope so.

All the others are doing great, and no signs of sickness at all. So I still have 11 fish--something I never dreamed would happen. I thought for sure the whole tank would be wiped out. Thanks so much to you guys who were so helpful and especially for all your support, Ches! Oh, I have added half dose of salt in my 55 gallon, and will add the other half tomorrow so they don't get too shocked. (I'm using a tablespoon per 5 gallons). Don't want to use too much because of the bettas and cory. The ich spots are already disappearing. I couldn't be happier!
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:51 AM   #39
 
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HAPPY POST - WONDERFUL NEWS!!!

I'm SO happy that things are looking up over there!
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