One of the Blood Parrot acting odd

ilikefish

I have 4.

One for the last few says has been stayin at the bottom lazy to come get food. its bottom fins are tucked in and has a mark on its temple. somewhat looks like a pimple but no sure if it always had that.

bettababy

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Please go here and answer the questions asked. Once answered, post it here for us to read, please.
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ilikefish

1. Size of aquarium (# of gallons) 65
2. Is your aquarium setup freshwater or brackish water? fresh
3. How long the aquarium has been set up? 4 years
4. What fish and how many are in the aquarium (species are important to know) 4 blood parrot 3 tri color shark and 6 angel
5. Are there live plants in the aquarium? NO
6. What temperature is the tank water currently? 23.5
7. What make/model filter are you using? EHEIM CANNISTER
8. Are you using a CO2 unit? NO
9. Does your aquarium receive natural sunlight at any given part of the day? NO
10. When did you perform your last water exchange, and how much water was changed? 3 PAILS A WEEK AGO
11. How often do you perform water changes? USE TO EVERY 3 WEEKS I HAVE BEEN ADVISED TO CHANGE ONCE A WEEK 30%
12. How often and what foods do you feed your fish? ALMOST EACH DAY. MOSTLY FLAKE FOOD &PELLETS, I TREAT THEM TO DRY BRINE SHRIMP AND KRILL EACH WEEK OR SO
13. What type of lighting are you using and how long is it kept on? 8 HOURS ON TIMER
14. What specific concerns bring you here at this time? ONE BLOOD PARROT HAS BEEN SITTING AT BOTTOM FOR A WEEK NOW STARTED OFF WITH A MARK ON TEMPLE THAT LOOKS LIKE A PIMPLE NOW HAS EXPANDED
15. What are your water parameters? Test your pH, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate. PH IS 6.6
16. What test kit are you using and is it liquid or test strips? LIQUID
17. When was the last time you bought a fish and how did they behave while in the pet store tank? 3 WEEKS , FINE

bettababy

That's a lot of fish in a 65 gallon tank. Without the rest of your water params, there's not much anyone can tell you. Chances are your nitrate levels are high, and also possibly ammonia and nitrite too. What is the pH in your tap water or source water when you do water changes?

The first thing I can say is that those fish need a much larger tank. If, after 4 yrs they all still fit into a 65 gallon tank, their growth has surely been stunted, and likely by poor water quality. Anything powerful enough to stunt growth is going to cause internal damage as well.

The "pimple" you describe... can you get a picture of it?

It sounds to me like there are a number of issues, and this is just the first fish to show symptoms. Once we have the rest of the water params (ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and the pH from the source/tap water) then we can help more.

ilikefish

Best pic i could take keeps hiding on me.

Whats good setting to pic camera on keep getting blurred.

Flashygrrl

Do you have a macro setting? I seem to get better pics using it, whatever it is :)

bettababy

Even without a clear picture, that appears to be hole in the head disease.

The problem with treatment is going to be your population. Can you please post the rest of your water params? (ammonia, nitrite, nitrate)

The meds needed to treat this can't be used in a polluted aquarium, and I have to expect that this one is, based on the info you've posted thus far.

Unless you can provide a much larger tank and/or seperate these fish so the tank isn't so grossly overpopulated, there isn't much that can be done. If you move it to a quarantine tank and treat it there, the fish may recover, but once it goes back into the tank, you will see the same problem begin again, and probably rather quickly. It is also just a matter of time before your other fish start to deveolp the same and/or other issues, all for the same reason... the tank isn't big enough for whats in it.

Can you please also post pictures of the sharks so we can properly identify them? At 4 yrs old all of those fish should be full grown or close to it. Angels should be between 6 - 8 inches in diameter, the blood parrots should be 8 - 10 inches, and depending on the type of sharks... anywhere from 6-8 inches and larger. These sizes are for each fish.

The blurring in your photos is from movement. The fact that the entire picture is blurred, this tells me it was the camera that moved, not the fish in the tank. If your camera has a manual focus, don't worry about background, focus it on the fish. It can take a few minutes to get a clear picture, and the photo should be snapped when the fish is still, even if momentary.
Can you please include a picture of the entire tank? That will also tell us a lot about the situation.

ilikefish

3 parrots are 5-6"m 1 parrot is 3"
sharks are 5-6"
angels are new.

how large of a tank do I need to quarentine the sick one. I have to buy more testers to get the rest of the water parameters. what do i need to buy for the hole in the head disease?

bettababy

For the moment, 30 gallons should be enough for a quarantine tank.

I can't suggest meds until I know all of the test results. Some meds are more effective than others, but also can't be used in poor water quality without wiping out the tank.

If the angels are new, now would be a good time to get them out of there. That tank can't sustain what is in it, and this is only the first of many problems to come if they all stay in there.

Can you get a clearer picture of the sharks? From these pics they look like bala sharks. Google bala sharks and check out the pics of them... is this what you have in there? Balas get 14 inches....

bf2king

tri color sharks are another name for bala sharks and yes from the picture they are bala's. wich should be kept in a 6 ft tank minimal.