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My Haplochromis compressiceps is bugging out!
Old 01-20-2008, 02:18 PM   #11
 
ok soon i plan on moving out the angels, gouramis, and puffer and possibly the ID shark, even though hes still only 2". You guys really dont iunderstand, this tank may seem crowded by the list but its not, all the fish except the midas and the malawis are still tiny, 3" max.
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Old 01-20-2008, 05:41 PM   #12
 
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You still haven't answered the brand of test kit I am asking. I never understood how your nitrates are 1-2 ppm. I cannot proceed from there without knowing the brand of test kit you are using. How much water did you replace? Is the fish okay or still doing what you had described in first post?

If you have a hospital tank, remove him and place him there. A dose of Melafix along with series of water change should sort his wound out.

As far as the stocklist, we are only concerned about you and your fish. It becomes a burden eventually when you see them harass each other later on and it becomes a burden for the fish to struggle surviving any possible harassments. It won't happen today but it will sooner or later which is why now is the right time to help you sort out your stocklist so you can avoid any future issues. We actually understand your situation. A lot of us have been there before hence we had issues when we do something like that.
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Old 01-20-2008, 07:00 PM   #13
 
Aquarium Pharmaceuticals liquid test kits. You really cant get a good number so I guessed The first color is between 0-5 ppm and it was light so i guessed about 1-2 ppm.

I did a 30% water change. Its not a big wound its just a cut the some fish get when the hit the side of the tank, soon it will be a callous.


I have no hosptial tank.

Alright. I unde stand the whole stocking thing but the fish are small and if there are problems later on I will move some. Please dont post anything else about the stocking list, its getting pretty annoying. once again i understand but theres nothing I can do about the moving and returning of the fish so lets drop that.Im beginning to regret this post.
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Old 01-20-2008, 07:36 PM   #14
 
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All good advice so far, I don't see what the problem is, GT. I mean that's what you wanted, right? Advice. Sometimes problems related with one thing have to do with other problems with the tank.

I would monitor the cut on your fish, and make sure it does not get any worse and infected...cause there may be a chance that it will not heal on its own and turn into callous. Keep up with frequent water changes, to keep your water quality up and in pristine condition.

Your water parameters seem a little out of whack. How long has the tank been set up? What kind of filtration on your running? How often you feed?


have any pictures of your tank, or of the fish with the cut?
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Old 01-20-2008, 07:38 PM   #15
 
OK, here is the bottom line. Your fish are not compatible with each other. You need to rethink your stocking scheme. Lupin broke down the requirements of each of the fish you had listed. There may be no aggression now, but you are going to be losing smaller fish to the larger ones. The Haplochomis compressiseps is an ambush predator and will eventually start feeding on the smaller fish.

As for the problem with the Hap, I would say your ammonia level is too high. The tank is not cycled. It takes anywhere from 2-12 weeks for a tank to cycle. It is obvious to me, you did not exercise the proper patience to insure the tank would be a healthy one for your tank's inhabitants. Now, both you and the fish are paying the price. You are paying with your sanity and pocketbook and they are paying with their lives. Not a fair trade-off at all, in my opinion.

So, the decision is yours, and your options are few. Decide on what you want to keep, get rid of those that are not compatible. Or you can keep having the problems you are having. These members are here to help out. Believe me they have all asked for help themselves. If you don't want to heed their advice, don't ask for it.

This may be a stern lecture, but you have the chance to learn. Take advantage of the situation. Your fish will love you if you do.
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Old 01-20-2008, 09:09 PM   #16
 
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Let me see if I can help a little by breaking down the exact problem in a different way. The Compressiceps is an african cichlid, needing hard water, upper 70's for temp, lots of space/territory, and usually live foods. For as strong of a fish as the Compressiceps is, it will be vulnerable to fish like the red devils, green terrors, puffers, and even the dolphin and ghost knife. The Compressiceps is a predator, but it is not as aggressive as these others mentioned. Things that will make a Compressiceps jump out of the water... poor water quality (caused by overfeeding, overstocking, lack of maintenance, or any combination of the 3), severe and extreme stress caused by the other named fishes attacking it to defend their territory, and water temps that are too high.
If pH is too low this will also cause your fish to "freak out". The problem you will find in trying to fix any of these issues is that not all of these fish need the same conditions to survive. Things like oscars, ghost knife, terrors, etc are all softer water fish, while things like your Compressicep and the other african cichlids are hard water fishes, and as Lupin was kind enough to map out, your puffer is a brackish to salt water fish.

Put simply, if one fish isn't sick another is going to be because you can't meet all of their needs in 1 tank. As the others have kindly pointed out, to fix your problem you will need to seperate these fish according to their needs. Once that is done your Compressiceps will stop jumping out of the water.
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Old 01-21-2008, 12:36 AM   #17
 
alright sounds good. Thanks alot for your help. For now. I will keep the water PH neutral. and the temps at 75. It seems to be that one of the oscar seem to be bothering the eye biter, forcing it to the top. Im going to find a way to make it better. Thanks for your help
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:02 PM   #18
 
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All good advice so far, I don't see what the problem is, GT.
Excuse me?, You dont see what the problem is? The problem is that you guys are very repetitive. I asked you to stop posting about the overcrowding. The day you come over my house and see my tank, then maybe you can say its overcrowded.
Causing me and my fish stress?
The tank is not causing me stress. In fact I would say its your repetitve answers that are stressing me out. My water IS crystal clear and my fish are happy.the fact that one fish,(who has resumed normal behavior) .ONE fish is having problems doesnt mean my tank is on the brink of collapse.

Now why dont you read through your "advice" and then ask me what the problem is again , friend.
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Old 01-23-2008, 12:16 AM   #19
 
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All good advice so far, I don't see what the problem is, GT.
Excuse me?, You dont see what the problem is? The problem is that you guys are very repetitive. I asked you to stop posting about the overcrowding. The day you come over my house and see my tank, then maybe you can say its overcrowded.
Causing me and my fish stress?
The tank is not causing me stress. In fact I would say its your repetitve answers that are stressing me out. My water IS crystal clear and my fish are happy.the fact that one fish,(who has resumed normal behavior) .ONE fish is having problems doesnt mean my tank is on the brink of collapse.

Now why dont you read through your "advice" and then ask me what the problem is again , friend.
GT, I don't think there is any cause for anyone to get nasty. Everyone here was trying to help. The reason everyone mentioned the overcrowded tank is because that is the biggest reason why one of the fish was having a problem. The people on this forum are friendly and helpful, and when we see someone heading for disaster, we try our best to warn them and help them avoid it. Some of the fish you have will eat the other fish soon. Did you know that an oscar grows up to 15 inches long, and as it grows, anything it can fit into its mouth becomes food?
I'm sure many of our members were concerned about the puffer fish, who needs brackish or salt water to survive. The problem is that if you salt the water in the tank with those other fish, you will kill a lot of them quickly.
The clawed frogs feed on fish, and get to be the size of a softball, and are extremely dirty, yet sensitive to any fluctuations in the water quality. The green terror doesn't have to be an adult (at 6 - 8 inches) to terrorize everything in the tank, and an irridescent sharks gets to be 3 feet long, and also very sensitive to water quality, and silver dollars get the size of a dinner plate. Even a young red devil is horribly aggressive, but when full grown, he also will kill and likely eat all of the other fish.
Nobody here wishes to see your fish die, that was the whole point of the advice everyone has given. The situation you have right now is deadly enough, but over the next few months those fish are going to grow a lot, and get more aggressive, need more space, etc. Due to the animals you mixed, it is obvious to us that you didn't have someone who knew what they were doing to help you select your stock for that tank. All we're offering to do is to help you sort it out so you can decide what to get rid of and what to keep before anything bad happens... which it will, guaranteed, and prob not too long away, either.

Please don't get angry at those who are trying to help save you a lot of money, frustration, and time in the long term. We're here if you have any questions.
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Old 01-23-2008, 03:47 AM   #20
 
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Enough has been said. I don't think there is any more reason for this thread to continue anymore.
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