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Old 03-16-2008, 10:26 PM   #11
 
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Bettababy likes to use a very good example of why that "rule" is flawed. She was working in a fish store one day and someone brought in a 10 inch Oscar, and they'd had it in a 10 gallon tank. Now I know that seems a little silly, but somehow it happened anyways. Needless to say, it didn't work out too well for the fish when they put it in a bigger tank. Too many things had gone wrong with it.

Anyways, unless your fish have room to turn around, to swim, and to behave like nature tells them to behave, then it's not fair to try otherwise. It's up to us, the keepers, to do our research before buying.

As for the Betta, I had read that you also had 2 female Bettas. They don't actually live together that well with males. And it's possible the Betta and the Mollies will get nippy with each other so keep an eye out for that.
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Old 03-17-2008, 08:01 AM   #12
 
Well, as far as the overstock, the pleco has plenty of room, but is growing fast..... the CAE has finally stopped growing.....

The betta died last night so I don't have to worry about watching him and the mollies.

As far as the bettas being in the same tank, I don't know why but I had them diviided into seperate bowls when I first got them. Due to the water getting really murky looking I finally decided to put them into the same bowl after doing a LOT of research reading on the bettas. I read in numerous articles that this could be done if they had space. So I got them 20 and moved them into it after it cycled. They all got along great. The CAE actually loved to chase the male but he wouldn't hurt him. The male would get next to the females and just "snuggle" next to them. Now all my origional pretties are gone. Everything I have left now are from the new purchases.

The dalmation molly had 10 babies and unknown to me, they are ALL still alive.

I checked my levels this morning and the nitrate has come down on the test strip from 160 to 80. But when I test it through the test tubes it always showed 0.0. How hard should the ater be for the tank? The only way to test that is the strip and the GH is always hight, but the KH is always in the low numbers. But, everyone in the tank excpet one of the mickey mouse seems to be doing ok at this moment, but that doesn't mean anything with the way they have died.

When the fish have died, they seem ok one minute, then they seem to lose their color and their mouths are always open.. After about an hour or so they are gone.

I do believe this water here could be the root of all problems. Our water system gets it water from the Tombigee River not an underground source like it used to. But thinking about it, if that was the cause of the problem, then why did it suddenly start with the addition of 4 new fist?
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Old 03-17-2008, 08:16 AM   #13
 
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Well, as far as the overstock, the pleco has plenty of room, but is growing fast..... the CAE has finally stopped growing.....
How big is the CAE? How long have you kept it? I would again recommend that the pleco be replaced as soon as possible. Stunting is possible especially in a small tank. This can seriously endanger their health and life.

There is another issue with the CAE which is its temperament. As they mature, they become more aggressive and will harass the other fish constantly to death. This are not your typical community fish at all contrary to what was often claimed by petstore employees. After all, when it comes to a majority of petstores, it's all marketing ploy.

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I checked my levels this morning and the nitrate has come down on the test strip from 160 to 80. But when I test it through the test tubes it always showed 0.0. How hard should the ater be for the tank? The only way to test that is the strip and the GH is always hight, but the KH is always in the low numbers. But, everyone in the tank excpet one of the mickey mouse seems to be doing ok at this moment, but that doesn't mean anything with the way they have died.
Okay, just to clarify matters, could you please restate the occupants of the tank as of right now? All in the 20g, correct?

What test kits are you using? If your nitrates are that high, this calls for reduction of stocks and increased frequency of water changes.

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When the fish have died, they seem ok one minute, then they seem to lose their color and their mouths are always open.. After about an hour or so they are gone.
Test your tapwater and then the petstore's water and compare both pH and hardness levels. Check the amonia, nitrites and nitrates as well.
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Old 03-17-2008, 07:10 PM   #14
 
How big is the CAE? How long have you kept it? I

The CAE is about 4 inches long, have had him for about 3 months. Pretty docile creature right now since the betta died... He loved to play chase with the male betta. He would chase the betta and then the betta would turn around and chase him.... but since the betta died last night he pretty much hides under a log.

would again recommend that the pleco be replaced as soon as possible. Stunting is possible especially in a small tank. This can seriously endanger their health and life.


The pleco's new home arrived today..... just for him..... a friend of mine had an aquarium in his garage that he said would be suitable for him.

Okay, just to clarify matters, could you please restate the occupants of the tank as of right now? All in the 20g, correct?


Right now in the 20gal is 1 lone neon tetra, 1 silver molly, 1 dalmation molly, 4 yellow micky mouse, the CAE and the Pleco....

The test kits I am using are API Freshwater Master Test Kit for the tube testing and comparing it to API 5 in 1 Test Strips. I also have an ammonia alert hung in the aquarium. The nitrates have come down on the test strip from 80 to 40, but still testing ok with the test tube.

The PH is testing at 6.5
The nitrite is testing 0.00
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Old 03-17-2008, 08:36 PM   #15
 
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You're shaking everything the correct amount of time, right? And you should always just absolutely just shake the heck out of Bottle #2 to make sure everything is mixed right. It's weird if it's not testing correctly.

And how big is the new tank? He's gonna eventually need a BIG tank.
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Old 03-17-2008, 08:41 PM   #16
 
Yes, I am shaking it as it say.... add 10 drops of bottle 1 and shake the tube 30 seconds. then shake bottle 2 1 minute and add 10 drops then shake shake tube again 1 minute... wait 5 minutes to get results. Don't know if it might just be a bad bottle or if I am just plain stupid. I am surprised though that with the nitrate that high from the test strip that the babies would have survived this long.... Oh I forgot there are also 10 new mollies in the tank that was birthed yesterday.
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