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post #11 of 23 Old 05-23-2012, 10:42 AM
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A varied diet is one of the most misleading things said in fish keeping. A varied diet is only good if you are feeding top quality foods - to feed an inferior food in favor of a superior food, for the sake of variety, is not a good plan. The whole idea of having to feed a variety of foods is because they are all incomplete, and hopefully a bunch of incompletes make a whole. But if the food is incomplete like that, how good is it really? NLS is complete nutrition.

Most people feed their dogs the same staple food every day. Why don't they have 5 different bags of dog food? Because 1 is all that's needed.

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A varied diet is one of the most misleading things said in fish keeping. A varied diet is only good if you are feeding top quality foods - to feed an inferior food in favor of a superior food, for the sake of variety, is not a good plan. The whole idea of having to feed a variety of foods is because they are all incomplete, and hopefully a bunch of incompletes make a whole. But if the food is incomplete like that, how good is it really? NLS is complete nutrition.

Most people feed their dogs the same staple food every day. Why don't they have 5 different bags of dog food? Because 1 is all that's needed.
Nothing misleading about offering a variety of foods all of which in combination can help prevent disease and ensure that the fishes aren't missing anything.
No fishes will benefit from one type of food offered, New life spectrum or any other.
I feed New life spectrum along with a variety of other food's as well, and it has served me well for forty plus year's.
Let me repeat ... NO fishes will remain helathy in the long term with one food as a staple no matter what the brand may be.

The most important medication in your fish medicine cabinet is.. Clean water.
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My point is to feed high quality foods. Feeding tetramin or wardley food just to add variety is not beneficial, and if anyone thinks that that's what it means to feed a varied diet, then IMO they have been misled. I could get a varied diet by eating at different fast food joints every night, but that doesn't make it a good diet.

125 - BGK, chanchito cichlid, pictus cats, silver dollars, palmas bichir
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90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
2.5 - betta
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My point is to feed high quality foods. Feeding tetramin or wardley food just to add variety is not beneficial, and if anyone thinks that that's what it means to feed a varied diet, then IMO they have been misled. I could get a varied diet by eating at different fast food joints every night, but that doesn't make it a good diet.
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Varied diet can help prevent HITH, but there is no food that on it's own can prevent it despite claims by food maker's.
Metronidazole mixed with foods can help control this disease along with clean water but once fish has contracted it ,,bout all you can do is try and provide best care.It don't go away completely if indeed that is the ailment.
Folk's used to claim (some still do) that using carbon caused HITH, but too many folk's keeping same species use carbon and theyr'e fishes don't develop HITH.

I do my best to keep a varied diet. I've heard that too, and I first tried to "cure" it without meds, but feeding beefheart, water change and blackwater extract. It didn't improve, and probably if I treated soon, he wouldn't still have this pox mark on his head. He's a really hearty guy, I will say. I rarely feed beef heart, as he doesn't seem to dig it that much. I feed frozen bloodworms, daphnia, mesquito larve (glass something?) and flakes. And the flakes are Omega brand

Have to laugh. Putting the heading on this post, sure got me replies!
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Boy am I glad I don't have to buy my water for water changes - I do 80% changes.

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Water here is pretty hard. ph is 8.4-8.6

The bottled water I buy is RO water and it has a ph value of 6.2

It does get to be a pain, because in the winter I have to fill laundry tub with hot, hot water to warm it up. In the summer, I can keep it in the car while I'm at work, and it's at about 83 degrees when I get home and can do a water change.

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Keep us updated Gwen, I keep rams and I have never heard of them being especially prone to HIH, so I would be interested to see how things go.

As far as diet goes I feed NLS, crushed veggie wafers, bloodworms (frozen), microworms (when I have them) and whatever flake I have around. Usually I feed NLS 3-4 times a week and then something different each of the other days.
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Keep us updated Gwen, I keep rams and I have never heard of them being especially prone to HIH, so I would be interested to see how things go.

As far as diet goes I feed NLS, crushed veggie wafers, bloodworms (frozen), microworms (when I have them) and whatever flake I have around. Usually I feed NLS 3-4 times a week and then something different each of the other days.

I've never done veggie wafers. I'll do that today. What is NLS? Thanks! I've tried to take a picture, so people could see it, but he just moves too much to get a clear shot of something so small. I'm sure it's HIH.

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I've never done veggie wafers. I'll do that today. What is NLS? Thanks! I've tried to take a picture, so people could see it, but he just moves too much to get a clear shot of something so small. I'm sure it's HIH.

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NLS is New life spectrum, it come in a container with a blue lid. I currently feed NLS cichlid formula but all their food is really good. I used to feed my young fry NLS Thera+A. All NLS has garlic in it which supposedly helps prevent a lot of illnesses.
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Garlic's health benefits are well documented :)

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125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
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