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Old 02-09-2009, 02:28 AM   #41
 
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Yes, I have seen this food. But, the active ingredients are exactly the same as the Parasite Clear which I already tried using to no effect.

Oh, and what I forgot to mention in my previous post is that I also tried to dissolve some of the Parasite Clear in aquarium water and soak some freeze-dried bloodworms in it for about 1 hr. then feed to the fish in case the medication would be more effective when fed directly to the fish. This did not work either.
Jungle labs parasite clear does not list levamisol (wormer) as ingredient. Given the expense of the Discus that I care for, I have used the anti- parasite medicated food with success. Have not tried parasite clear (different method of administering) for It requires treating the water which I am loathe to do. Jugle lab also makes anti- bacteria medicated food as well. Perhaps the fish don't have parasites but rather bacterial infection.

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Old 02-09-2009, 03:43 AM   #42
 
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It has been a very LONG time since I had occasion to use either of the medications (jungle anti- parasite medicated food) or jungle Parasite clear tank buddies. I am not certain who has told original poster that these are EXACTLY the same but they are not. A quick google search for ingredients of both will confirm. The medicated fish food by jungle requires exclusive feeding for three consecutive days a week for three weeks. Jungles parasite clear tank buddies have different instructions as I recall , one treatment with 48 hours between next treatment 25 percent water changes between or before treatments for three to four or five weeks (can't remember) I am not attempting to be combative here, or defend or condemn the use of medications just clearing up any possible misunderstanding. As a last resort,, and depending on my attachment to the fish or fishes I too would explore all options.
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Old 02-09-2009, 07:53 AM   #43
 
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I bought some Jungle Labs medicated parasite food and it did list levamisol as one of the active ingredients. I was using it to treat my clown loach, did not help in my situation.
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:54 AM   #44
 
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And so it goes with attempts at medicating fish. Without proper identification of what specific pathogen ,bacteria,or fungal infection is present most hobbyists can only make their best educated guess given the symptoms that are observed. Proper identification would involve microscope to observe samples of feces or scrapings done to determine exactly what the offending organisim or pathogen is and most hobbyists don't have the means to do so. It also requires the ability to identify different parasites from one another when looking at them.As hobbyists we are lucky in some respects that medications offered have wide ranging capabilities when addressing some parasites but other medications, are for specific applications and affect different fish in different ,sometimes,harmful ways. As I have said many times, It is ALWAYS easier to maintain the water quality than it is to treat sick fish. Proper feeding, water changes done regularly,properly stocked tanks, and the ability to identify possible sick fish when purchasing them = fewer sick fish. When fish are stressed for any reason. their health will suffer as their immune system is weakened due to the stress and thus disease and Illness are more prone to present themselves. And sometimes despite our best efforts fish die.
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Old 02-09-2009, 02:10 PM   #45
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Thank you for all the advice. I'm still looking for a place to get meds from.

I just wanted to clear something up though. These fish were sick when I got them. I took them from my brother who did not take care of them at all. Once I became educated about fishkeeping I realized how terrible the situation was and I arranged to take the tank. I'm quite neurotic about my fish, so they are all in pristine aquariums which get regular weekly water changes.
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Old 02-11-2009, 08:26 PM   #46
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I got some pictures in the hope that they would help. The male guppy was desplaying a lesser case of the ulcerations seen on the other male that died. These two are the only ones that displayed these symptoms. Most of the others when I first took the tank just got more and more emaciated, had rapid breathing, and died. The cories still "appear" normal but they also display the white poops. So here goes.

Male guppy yesterday.
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Female
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Cory (all pretty much look the same)
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Babies (they look normal and eat fine)
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Male guppy today. Notice the ulcer on the side and the bloating which was also present before. I checked for any worms and found none on the body (maybe I should have checked inside as well though). Note: his spine was not crooked before, it only appears that way because he is dead.

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Old 02-11-2009, 08:29 PM   #47
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Uh, the last pic was supposed to be at the top because the fish is obviously alive, but it wouldn't work so sorry.
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Old 02-15-2009, 12:54 PM   #48
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I have been at a loss at what to do, but I am trying one last thing today. I can't fine the Jungle Labs medicated food anywhere,nor the levamisole pig dewormer (which I had my parents drive me a 1/2 hr away just to find out that they didn't have it) but since I am going to Petco tonight to pick up a new betta (yay!) I am going to ask them if they can order it for me. Cross your fingers for me!
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Old 02-15-2009, 01:20 PM   #49
 
They have it at my Petsmart.
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Old 02-17-2009, 02:27 PM   #50
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They did not have it at Petco, and couldn't order it.

I then went on the Jungle Labs website and printed out all the locations that they supply to near me. I read your comment Dramaqueen, and since Petsmart was on the list I checked there first......and they actually have it!!!!!!! I'm so excited, and we're going to pick it up tonight! I had pretty much lost all hope, but now I'm thinking they may have a chance. I'll let some sink for the cories and powder it for the babies so hopefully all will be parasite free soon. I really want to see my cories in my big tank. I know they'll love it because it is sand and I built a big rock cave especially for them. Wish me luck!
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