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post #1 of 8 Old 11-26-2011, 02:50 PM Thread Starter
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Ich life cycle and treatment?

Hey Fish Fans,

Given the life cycle of Ich and the need to treat until every microbe cycles thru till it can be killed,

is it normal for attacks of white dots on the gill covers to come back during proper treatment?

29 gal non-planted tank
One Black Moor Goldfish
Day 7 or 8 of treatment with 3 tsp aquarium salt per gallon

Temp 77-78 deg. F

API liquid test kits:
pH 7.4
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 10 ppm

Eheim 2213 filter
Two 50W heaters
Diet green peas, green beans, Aqueon Goldfish sinking pellets

Fish has gone from active to listless in the past 36 hours and now has a few white dots...

Worrying...

Thanks,
Steve
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post #2 of 8 Old 11-27-2011, 06:13 PM
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Wow Steve you are really haveing a ruff time with this ick on your poor fish. I have never treated with just salt and raiseing the temp I have always treated with a med. and have never had the spots come back during the treatment.

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Amanda

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55 gallon, 44 gallon, one 20 gallon tank, three 10 gallon tanks, and a 2.5 gallon all with real plants.

I have MTS and there is no cure.

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post #3 of 8 Old 11-27-2011, 11:23 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you for your help and kind thoughts.

You're so right! This is giving major trouble with both our poor Fancy Goldfish in two separate tanks. Those fish def. don't deserve any of this grief. The arguments for salt and water temp. seemed pretty persuasive, wish I had done as you say and gone straight to medicine.

Thanks also for your reply to thread in Cyprinids and Atherinids, "Black Moor Sick During Ich Treatment..."

We appreciate your good wishes!

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post #4 of 8 Old 11-28-2011, 07:55 AM
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If they were my fish since they both are sick I would go ahead and put them together and do a large water change and start meds as the salt seems to not be working. I have used a product in the past that was a fizz tab that I got at petsmart that treated ick and several other problems at the same time it turned the water blue but it worked very well if I were you that is what I would try since the salt is not working I belive the product was made by jungle.
ETA: I went online to find the product and it is actually by Tetra and it is called Lifeguard all in one treatment. I am really worried about your little guys as this has been going on for quiet a while now.
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post #5 of 8 Old 11-28-2011, 05:11 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you so much!

Our poor little Calico Moor died this afternoon ...he had a bunch of white spots, Ich I think, breathing fast and hard and also emaciated a little before he died. Unsure whether his case was too far along or Super Ick Cure (API) isn't so super, but it did seem to clear up our Black Moor.

It's really, really tough, but you know this...Fancy Goldfish are so sweet and loving...

The Black Moor still looks healthy after recovering over the weekend, but I worry a lot because this Ich, or whatever, must be real stubborn... Was wondering what there was to treat him now while still healthy to make sure the bugs are gone!

So thank you very, very much for the rec., it's very timely and very much appreciated, plus someone mentioned he may have a superinfection so it's really great you're recommending a treatment that gets a bunch of diseases. Some posters had recommended Jungle Antibiotic Food or Antibacterial Food and all the user reviews seem good but I can't find the food anywhere, may not even be available any more.

Thank you again for your advice and well wishes,

Steve


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post #6 of 8 Old 11-28-2011, 05:20 PM
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So sorry you lost the little guy. I had forgotten how much personality these little guys had until I rescued one a little over a week ago. I would finish the treatment period of the super ick since it seems to be working for him in the mean time get him a friend and quarentine him for at least a month I think is the recommended time for quarentine.

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Amanda

Keeping fish its not a hobby it is a passion!

55 gallon, 44 gallon, one 20 gallon tank, three 10 gallon tanks, and a 2.5 gallon all with real plants.

I have MTS and there is no cure.

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post #7 of 8 Old 11-28-2011, 07:01 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks! That's what we'll do, on both counts

His first night in the big tank with the Super Ick Cure, the little Calico Moor was struggling to breathe but after the Black Moor -- these guys had never met before -- had gone to sleep on the tank floor, the Calico Moor went over and slept right beside him... *sniffle*

So it seems like it'll be worth it to keep going to find a Fancy Goldfish friend for Blackie

If you have a rescue Goldfish, good on you! and best wishes with her/his care

Thank you so much for your encouragement
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post #8 of 8 Old 11-28-2011, 07:44 PM
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Thank you and if your interested you can read about our adventure here:
Need Goldfish help quick...
and here you can see pictures and read a little more:
http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...oldfish-86571/

Kindest Regards,
Amanda

Keeping fish its not a hobby it is a passion!

55 gallon, 44 gallon, one 20 gallon tank, three 10 gallon tanks, and a 2.5 gallon all with real plants.

I have MTS and there is no cure.

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