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Is this ich?

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Old 10-26-2012, 03:30 PM   #1
 
Is this ich?

Hi, I'm Bente and I'm new to this forum.

I have a female American flagfish who 3 days ago had a white spot on her eyelid (I hadn't noticed it then, I just saw a pic I had taken and now see it) and yesterday I noticed it as being very large (looks larger than any ich I've seen) and is covering 1/3 of the eye. she is a small fish, though, only 3/4 inch. I had treated for ich about a week ago after aquiring some new platies from a petstore for almost 3 days after seeing the fish flick, but stopped the treatment when my male fancy guppy was showing distress on the aquarium floor as all the fish ate his tail fin. I did a water change and he recovered but never completely so I euthanized him. I assumed he had gill flukes. I've looked for gill flukes at 40X but because I'm inexperienced with taking mucus scrapings I'm not sure if I did a good job at the sampling.

I got some platies a couple of weeks ago and have gotten a new molly from the local saltmarsh (they often have leeches, black or green, and this one had a reddish segmented hooked worm on his tail). Basically I know i have parasites, the question is, is this white spot ich or is there anything else that can be confused with it? From my understanding, ich is old world, but I've caught Sheepshead minnows with white spots on their fins that looked like ich, so I could've gotten it from the marsh presumable as well. I've got a good pic of the spot.

I also had a female Sailfin suddenly get a black splotch on her side that disappeared after 2 days. Now an American flagfish has a new second black splotch on her side and has been there 2 days, she also has a brown spot on her dorsal fin that showed up at the same time.

Any help is appreciated!

1. Size of tank? 29 gal

2. Water parameters
a. Ammonia?0
b. Nitrite? 0
c. Nitrate? 5
d. pH, KH and GH? ph is 7.5 don't know KH or GH
e. Test kit? API freshwater master kit
3. Temperature?78

4. FW (fresh water) or BW (brackish)? fresh

5. How long the aquarium has been set up? 4 months

6. What fish do you have? How many are in your tank? How big are they? How long have you had them?

one marsh killifish, 1.25 in had since late August
2 peppered corydoras, since late August
3 American flagfish, all less than 1 in, one I caught in August, the other 2 in Sept
1 male sailfin Molly, 2.25 in, caught 3 days ago
3 female Sailfin mollies, 1.5-1.75 in, have had 2-3 months
2 female "feeder" guppies, 1 in, since early Aug
2 female fancy guppies, 1.5 in, got 2 wks ago
6 platies 1.25 in, got less than a month ago

mollies, killifish, and flagfish all from a local saltmarsh. I've had a lot of fish in and out of this tank, starting with tilapia and mosquito fish, juv mollies and molly fry, as well as many Sheepshead minnows, all from the saltmarsh

7. Were the fish placed under quarantine period (minus the first batch from the point wherein the tank is ready to accommodate the inhabitants)? no

8. a. Any live plants? Fake plants? 3 fake 4 very small sword fern 2 small Bacopa monieri
b. Sand, gravel, barebottom? gravel
c. Rocks, woods, fancy decors? Any hollow decors? 2 conch shells, 4 terracotta pots,3 driftwood

9. a. Filtration? biowheel 200
b. Heater? no

10. a. Lighting schedule? What lights are used? 7 to 8pm, FL 20
b. Any sunlight exposure? How long? no

11. a. Water change schedule? every 4-5 days
b. Volume of water changed? 25%
c. Well water, tap water, RO water? tap
d. Water conditioner used? none, tap water stands 2 days to evaporate chlorine
e. Frequency of gravel/sand (if any) vacuumed? every 4-5 days

12. Foods? flake, endive, romaine, peas, algae, dried bloodworms, occasional bottom pellet
How often are they fed?

13. a. Any abnormal signs/symptoms? Flicking by the mollies, platies, and American Flagfish, guppy had distress and high respiration rate
b. Appearance of poop? haven't noticed but usually brown, with the guppies have seen whitish as well as brown
c. Appearance of gills? normal

14. a. Have you treated your fish ahead of diagnosis? yes
b. What meds were used?formalin, malachite green

15. Insert photos of fish in question and full tank shot if necessary.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/49941250@N08/8125795980/
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Last edited by Bente; 10-26-2012 at 03:40 PM..
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:28 PM   #2
 
Bente,
i would recomend putting the sick fish(es) into a quarantine tank just so they don't get the other fish sick as well. you also might want to purchase and add some stress coat by API to your tank. Hope your fish feels better soon.
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