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post #1 of 4 Old 03-26-2009, 02:42 PM Thread Starter
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I need major help all out of options!!!!

hi everyone. i wrote about this once before. im having serious problems with my african cichlids scratching and itching flashing whatever you want to call it. i have treated the tank for multiple diseases. this has been going on for months!!!!! i treated with malacite green for 3 weeks, treated with jungle products lifeguard all in one treatment, ick clear, paracite clear, fungus clear, and api product general cure all for the reccomended doses. I do regular water changes through this whole thing unless otherwise specified by the disease treatment.

i check my water parameters all the time. ph is 8.0, ammona 0, nitrite 0, nitrate is never higher then 40. not really sure why it is that high sometimes though even right after a water change. i just started checking into hardness and i was low so i used epsolm salt to raise it at the dose of 1 tbs for every 5 gallons. this is the info i got off the net.

i have some bad videos i want to try to post. it shows what the fish are doing just a little bit. there are times it is so conmstant that it is easy to see. i get so mad watching it i break things. however, ofcourse when its time to get it on camera it is hard to see.

they flicker their fins on their backa and underneeth their bodies very quickly like spasms then flash on the stuff in the tank. so frustrated dont know what to do anymore. i think im going to do a huge water change and see if that helps.

first vid shows how their fins spasm. usually its faster. the second shows how they scratch. usually they do this more times in a row.

ive read everything there is to read on flashing and still i cant stop it. not sure why they do this. at times its better then others but i cant tell what the difference is. its irratates me so bad that i just want to get rid of them somtimes. however if they have some disease i dont want to contaminate others if i give them away. that means id have to kill them. i dont want to do that either but my blood pressure is rising everytime i look in the tank. i just had enough of this.

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post #2 of 4 Old 03-26-2009, 04:44 PM Thread Starter
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does anyone have any other ideas?
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post #3 of 4 Old 03-26-2009, 05:12 PM
You poor thing, have you tried ambilify...that is a JOKE. Fish are suppose to lower your blood pressure . Seriously, you might like to have your water checked for mineral levels, BigAl's does advanced testing here. If you have one near you it could be worth a try. Could have high phosphates.Maybe a cichlid expert here will see the post and view the video for you. I hope you get this figured out.
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post #4 of 4 Old 03-27-2009, 11:28 AM Thread Starter
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well i got a second hardness test kit and checked it out. the gh and kh are as high as the chart would read. so i know they are atleast high enough for african cichlids. however, is it possible to have the hardness too hard for cichlids and would this cause the behavior im seeing?
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