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Old 08-31-2011, 12:52 AM   #1
 
I need advice please right away

Hi everyone,

I have a 10 gallon tank with 3 platys and 2 bamboo shrimp. I've had it set up for 5 months, 0 ammonia, 0 nitrite, 0 nitrate, tank temp is 77. I feed them flakes and frozen bloodworms. I do use aquarium salt in the water. I noticed that 1 of the male platys had big white marks on him, and is acting really weird. When he swims around, he swims around crazy and darts all over the tank, and today I saw him try to rub the side of himself on the live plant I have. I just want to know how to treat this. I do water changes, but the marks are still there and he's still acting weird. Should I use medicine? Will it affect the bamboo shrimp? What should I do? Here is a pic of the platy & my overall tank


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Old 08-31-2011, 04:19 AM   #2
 
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Hi everyone,

I have a 10 gallon tank with 3 platys and 2 bamboo shrimp. I've had it set up for 5 months, 0 ammonia, 0 nitrite, 0 nitrate, tank temp is 77. I feed them flakes and frozen bloodworms. I do use aquarium salt in the water. I noticed that 1 of the male platys had big white marks on him, and is acting really weird. When he swims around, he swims around crazy and darts all over the tank, and today I saw him try to rub the side of himself on the live plant I have. I just want to know how to treat this. I do water changes, but the marks are still there and he's still acting weird. Should I use medicine? Will it affect the bamboo shrimp? What should I do? Here is a pic of the platy & my overall tank



It looks like Ich
When my fish get it i increase my tank temp to 80-82 and add aquarium salt to the tank like you already do, and in about a week sometimes maybe a few days longer its gone, other people may suggest medications
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Old 08-31-2011, 10:22 AM   #3
 
Do you notice him swim into your rock area at all? Looks as if he may have the markings of hitting himself on the rocks.
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Old 08-31-2011, 11:01 AM   #4
 
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Ich will look like the fish has been sprinkled with salt. If you can fill out the following form will help. Some of the information you have already provided, but some additional information will help. Just copy and paste and fill in the additional information. Diagnosis Form - Read this before you post. Also the spots on the fish, do the appear to look fuzzy?
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Old 08-31-2011, 10:15 PM   #5
 
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Ich will look like the fish has been sprinkled with salt. If you can fill out the following form will help. Some of the information you have already provided, but some additional information will help. Just copy and paste and fill in the additional information. Diagnosis Form - Read this before you post. Also the spots on the fish, do the appear to look fuzzy?
1. Size of tank? 10 gallons

2. Water parameters
a. Ammonia? 0
b. Nitrite? 0
c. Nitrate? 0
d. pH, KH and GH? P.H. is 7.5 .. Don't know the KH & GH
e. Test kit? API Master Test Kit

3. Temperature? 77

4. FW (fresh water) or BW (brackish)? freshwater but i also add aquarium salt to the tank. 2 tablespoons/10 gallons

5. How long the aquarium has been set up? 5 months

6. What fish do you have? How many are in your tank? How big are they? How long have you had them? 3 platys, 2 bamboo shrimp

7. Were the fish placed under quarantine period (minus the first batch from the point wherein the tank is ready to accommodate the inhabitants)? no

8. a. Any live plants? Fake plants? 3 fake plants, 1 live plant
b. Sand, gravel, barebottom? gravel
c. Rocks, woods, fancy decors? Any hollow decors? hollow rock

9. a. Filtration? aqueon up to 20 gallon quiet flow filter
b. Heater? yes

10. a. Lighting schedule? What lights are used? i keep lights on for 10 hours a day
b. Any sunlight exposure? How long? no

11. a. Water change schedule? twice a week
b. Volume of water changed? 2 gsllons each time
c. Well water, tap water, RO water? tap water
d. Water conditioner used? prime
e. Frequency of gravel/sand (if any) vacuumed? once a week

12. Foods? tetra flakes, aqueon flakes, frozen bloodworms
How often are they fed? twice a day

13. a. Any abnormal signs/symptoms? big white marks on fish, swimming weird, darting around the tank like crazy, hiding inside of the rock in the corner, takes a while for him to come out to eat, rubbing himself sideways on plant
b. Appearance of poop? color of food, normal
c. Appearance of gills? normal

14. a. Have you treated your fish ahead of diagnosis? no
b. What meds were used? haven't used anything yet

15. Insert photos of fish in question and full tank shot if necessary.
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Do you notice him swim into your rock area at all? Looks as if he may have the markings of hitting himself on the rocks.


no i dont notice that, but he did somehow get stuck inside of the rock about a month ago, he must have swam inside of it i dont know how, but he was in there for like 15 hours but didn't have any marks on him... a month later the marks started showing up..
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Old 09-01-2011, 12:31 AM   #7
 
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From what you have described and from the look of the fish, looking at the thread on diseases I am thinking the possibility of two different things. Does he have any white patches around the mouth area? Here is some following info from the thread. I am thinking possibly the first with the fact that he was stuck in the rock a month ago. It is possible while in there he may have caused some damage which could not be seen and secondary infection has set in? If you notice any white cottony patches around the mouth then I would lean towards the second. With either one you will want to keep the water pristine.

Body Fungus (Saprolegnia spp.)Symptoms:White cottony patches on the skin with long filaments that stand awaySymptoms must be differentiated from the false mouth fungus, Columnaris.Causes:Fungi are decomposing organisms that exist in every aquarium. The wound must always be treated immediately. If left untreated, fungal spores can attach themselves on the wounds and eventually harm the fish. They serve as a secondary infection to the wounds and open sores.Treatment:Methylene Blue, Jungle Fungus Guard, Mardel MaroxyRead more: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/t...ZS6zColumnaris

(Flexibacter columnaris)Synonyms:Cotton-wool, Mouth Fungus, FlexibacterSymptoms:White mouth with tiny filaments, white areas near edge of scales, clamped fins, fins start to rot in the later stage, fish struggles and sways near the surfaceCauses:This is bacterial infection which is very common in the aquaria and is very contagious. Immediate action is needed to contain it before it spreads to other fish.Treatment:Broad spectrum antibiotics, Sera Baktopur, Binox, Maracyn I & II, Kanacyn, Terramycin, Acriflavine, Furan, Copper SulfateFlexibacter columnaris thrives very well in warm waters therefore it is necessary to gradually lower the temperature to prevent it from progressing.Read more: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/t...z1Wfi7AiGsHope this may help in trying to figure out more with what is going on with him. Also if you do a treatment if possible I would consider placing him in a qt/hospital tank, a 5 gallon bucket would work as well for a temporary hospital tank.
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Old 09-01-2011, 06:46 PM   #8
 
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Old 09-09-2011, 02:00 PM   #9
 
a quick comment on your tank perimeters: it seems odd that you have 0 nitrates with only one plant in there. would it be possible for you to take a water sample to a LFS and have them test it and give you numbers? just to make sure your kit is good. i can't help it, i get suspicious when i see those reading.
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a quick comment on your tank perimeters: it seems odd that you have 0 nitrates with only one plant in there. would it be possible for you to take a water sample to a LFS and have them test it and give you numbers? just to make sure your kit is good. i can't help it, i get suspicious when i see those reading.
Your not supposed to have a Trate reading...Why would you be suspicious? He must be doing wild crazy water changes.

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