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post #11 of 16 Old 10-02-2008, 12:24 AM
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Salt is ok to use, but don't overdo it. 3 Tablespoons in 10 gallons of water is plenty. When doing the water changes, don't dose the salt again at full strength. If you're sure 50% of the water is being removed each time, then 1/2 dose (1.5 tablespoons) of salt each time is safe. Salt does not evaporate, so if you take out 40% each time and dose for 50%... it will accumulate. Too much salt can be toxic, so be careful, please. It is also safe to just pour the salt into the water, no premixing needed. If the fish eats some of the crystals, that's ok also.

The goldfish I mentioned earlier... I didn't use any salt in the water, just kept it clean long term, and made sure the fish had good, proper food, lots of silk plants to help avoid stress, and plenty of space to swim around. A good filter plus an added air stone can also help a lot. Goldfish are about the dirtiest fish there is, so if the tank is 10 gallons, its a safe bet you'll need a filter strong enough for 20 gallons.

When you get the new tank, something to keep in mind... this is a fish that should grow to about 6 - 8 inches when full grown. Full size is usually obtained by 3 - 4 yrs of age, so they grow quickly. (The one I have now is about 6 - 7 inches and its about 2 1/2 yrs old) Once the water conditions and space issues are fixed, it is likely the fish will begin growing again, and at a normal (or almost normal) rate. The bigger the next tank is the more money you'll save in the long term and the easier it will be overall to care for the fish. For 2 fancy goldfish, expect to need 90 - 120 gallons. If you start out with the larger tank, you'll save a lot of money not having to upgrade every 6 - 8 months as they grow. The same is true for the pleco... it should begin growing again and rather quickly... and a standard pleco gets about 18 inches long. 90 - 120 should be large enough to keep all 3 fish long term, provided it has good filter and maintenance.
(I'm not trying to be pushy, just trying to save you some $$ in the long term)

Good Luck to you!

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post #12 of 16 Old 10-03-2008, 01:46 AM Thread Starter
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I got an updated picture of his eye, just figured I would post it and see what you guys think as i still dont know for sure what it is...


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-Fantail Goldfish
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post #13 of 16 Old 10-03-2008, 02:36 AM
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Much better picture, and it is what I expected to see based on your description. My advice stands as before based on this new picture.

There is no way to know if that is malignant or not without the lab work, but that is a tumor. Cleaning up the conditions as we discussed already is about all you can really do for that kind of condition. You can try the salt, but I don't see any sign of infection that salt would help with. The only benefit of the salt for something like this is maybe to help boost the immune system a bit. If its malignant there isn't anything that can be done, so it may just get worse.
Sorry I couldn't offer better news.
Good Luck with it!

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post #14 of 16 Old 10-03-2008, 01:16 PM Thread Starter
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I will see how it does in good tank conditions. I was already prepared to hear that it was a tumor, as that is was the general consensus on several sites.

I know that you can possibly get these removed by a quilfied vert, but I don't think that I would want to risk it being so close to his eye.

Hopefully the water conditions and salt will help.

Thanks!

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-Fantail Goldfish
-Common Pleco

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-Male Betta
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post #15 of 16 Old 10-03-2008, 01:33 PM
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You are correct that a qualified vet may be able to help you, but that will depend greatly on the whether or not the tumor is malignant. A vet would need to do the lab work to determine that, and I warn ahead of time... unfortunately... aquatic vets are not cheap.
The eye removal surgery my husband and I did on my oscar was quoted to me at $200 - $300 minimum charge from a dvm, with no reassurance the fish would survive and/or recover. Not many people are willing to spend that kind of money on a fish facing those kinds of risks.
Again, good luck to you!

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post #16 of 16 Old 10-04-2008, 10:35 AM
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Not many people are willing to spend that kind of money on a fish facing those kinds of risks.
Again, good luck to you!
Hahaha, and if you are willing to people will think your crazy, seriously I had a rat once (The best pet ever) and she got mammary gland tumors twice, and both times I paid like 300$ to get them removed. Everyone said "You could have a bought an army of rats!!" But it was worth it, my rat lived to the ripe old age of 6, when she finally passed even my dad cried! Thats huge, my dads the kinda guy who acts tough so it was a real shock to see tears rolling down his cheeks as we buried my dearest friend Roxy, R.I.P.

Sorry about the story lol but if you have the money too and you really enjoy your pet, its totally worth the money.

And just before you laid dead weight upon its shores, I stung you in the face for that's the nature of my core.
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