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Old 11-20-2006, 11:33 PM   #21
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Don't worry, Sarah.:)
Fish will never be satisfied by the food given to them. They will keep chomping down on foods which is why we tend to warn every hobbyist not to overfeed or risk the fish getting constipated.

I'd say there was nothing wrong with your fish.:) If their stomachs bulge to an extent, then they could have swim sluggishly and tend to fall to the bottom quite often.
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Old 11-20-2006, 11:42 PM   #22
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Yeah their stomachs do look a little big.

What are you feeding them and how often?

Are the barbs swimming okay? Any sign of stuggishness or trouble with swimming?

Take a look at their feces too if you have a chance, and describe how it appears, this could hold clues to their condition.
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Old 11-21-2006, 12:37 AM   #23
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I feed flake food about 3 X a week. I have only fed them 1 kind of food. I just read recently that their diet should be varied so maybe that's the problem. I bought a dif brand of flake food to feed them so could alternate. I did have some tiny pellets for them, but it seemed to get stuck in their mouth and it took them a long time for it to get out. Is just alternating the brand of flake food enough?

They appear to be swiming fine right now, just zipping all over the place like normal. It's mainly just after I feed them they have problems. I think they are watching me and laughing at me stress out about them!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 11-21-2006, 12:50 AM   #24
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Fish, like all animals, need a balanced diet inluding fats, carbohydrates, protein, vitamins, and minerals. Sometimes, if not most of the time, flake food only diets just don't cut it.

What brand flake foods do you have? It is good that you have two different types of flake foods, but how exactly are they different?

In addition to the flake food, you should be giving them either live or freeze-dried brine shrimp, bloodworms and beef heart as a treat. By that I mean every other day, or a couple times a week. Or if you want to you could do it every day, just make sure you don't overfeed.

You feed them only 3 times a week? I mean I guess that is acceptable, but in my opinion, feeding them smaller amounts once or twice a day would be better.
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Old 11-21-2006, 02:41 AM   #25
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Originally Posted by TexasTornado
I think they are watching me and laughing at me stress out about them!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hee hee... Now there's the bright side to making a thread like this.
Mike mentioned everything possible. I'd try frozen stuffs rather than freeze-dried and live. Live stuffs just increase risk of introducing pathogens except maybe mosquito larva. I've never had problems feeding my fish with live mosquito larva. Avoid live tubifex worms. Being dwellers of muddy environments, they pose a great risk of introducing pathogens.

I find FD(freeze-dried) foods less nutritious than frozen. You can try using Mysis shrimps, bloodworms, flakes, brine shrimps(young ones are preferred as they seem more nutritious with their yolk still possibly intact), beefhearts, daphnia, raw fish, mussels, cockles and veggies. Mike mentioned some of these foods already.:) If you want to try beefhearts, make sure to feed the fish only once a week to lessen chances of introducing intestinal flagellates. Be sure to know that the fish eating beefhearts are carnivores or omnivores. Vegetarians run the risk of getting stomach upsets as they store too much protein when they need less protein. Pure vegetarians often have shorter intestines and meat takes time to digest rather than veggies so as mentioned above, they run the risk of getting stomach upsets easily.

What are your fish in the tank?:) We'd like to know so we can help you determine what food would be best as some are restricted only to certain species.:) One example of restriction is avoid feeding bloodworms and beefheart to Tropheus cichlids. Tropheus cichlids are often vegetarians hence food containing too much protein are avoided.
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Old 11-21-2006, 04:41 AM   #26
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I could debate the nutrition in all of the foods mentioned depending on the fish you're feeding it to, but I will wait to see where this thread goes before stepping in about that. I will say that how the food is packaged makes a huge difference. Feeding 3 times/wk is perfectly acceptable, and most fish will appear hungry no matter how often or how much you feed them.
I saw everyone here ask about nitrite and nitrate levels, but what about ammonia and pH?
Also, tiger barbs like the temp a little cooler than most tropicals. They tend to do the best in the low to mid 70's.
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Old 11-21-2006, 07:05 PM   #27
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tank size=20 gal
population=3 tigar barbs only
live plants (water wisteria who's leaves are coming off)
temp=78 (constantly)

Their stomachs looked ok tonight so I fed them some frozen bloodworns and they gobbled them they look bloated again!!!

Also one of them is quite a bit bigger than the rest and eats the food faster than the smaller two!!!
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Old 11-21-2006, 08:28 PM   #28
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It's natural for the situation wherein bigger fish gets the biggest share to happen. They may also happen to be the most dominant of the growth. The disadvantage I've seen mostly in shoals is that the weakest ends up being a runt. Which is why in most fish farms, fry are separated as they grow to allow smaller ones to grow.:)
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Old 11-21-2006, 09:13 PM   #29
From your original post and recent one, the ammonia, nitrItes, pH, and temp hasn't changed which is good. I would have to assume that they are just gluttons. LOL

One thing to keep in mind is it's usually good to skip a day or 2 of feeding to help clean their system out. I normally like to make the frozen peas before I make them fast for a day or 2.
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Old 11-21-2006, 11:16 PM   #30
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I just peeked at them and they seem to look fine!!!!! Thanks y'all!!!!!! I think I'll wait about a week and get a couple new fish...what would be a good choice??? Another Gourami maybe??? I don't know much about fish but I sure love learning about them!!! They are facinating!!

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