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post #1 of 19 Old 09-01-2007, 04:34 AM Thread Starter
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HELP!@!!@

i just got my goldfish from the pet store where it would have been in near perfect conditions, water ph, light,air and so on.

my tank is large, about 6 foot by 3x3, there are no airstones, no filter, alls we have a the moment is some gravel and some fern water plant things. the water is straight out of the tap, it has fluride added to it to protect our teeth,but would this harm my fish? im not sure of the ph level either because i dont have a tester, yet. we left the tank of water sit for a day to hopefully kill off some of the bad things in it.

but im worried, my fish swims to the top of the water and gasps in complete vertical (upright) position,
it looks like it isnt happy, sometimes it rests on the bottom of the tank? this doesnt look good

what is wrong with it? im guessing a combination of no air movement and bad ph level?

any suggestions would be very heplful because if it dies my girlfriend will kill me!!!
thank you, Dann

im setting up a coldwater 6 foot tank with goldfish, if you have any hints or tips for me please tell me.
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post #2 of 19 Old 09-01-2007, 04:44 AM
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hello
well your fish is suffering,and will continue
to do so unless you change the conditions
that it is living in.
you need a filter,and it needs to grow bactieria in
your tank needs to cycle,if you have any friends
who keep fish,ask them for a spare sponge or
filter media,or even gravel.
you need also to de-chlorinate the water as well.
can you get these things today,as you really need to .
then you will start to see a difference in the fish.
:)

when you set up a new tank,hide an extra
sponge or two behind some decor,that way you have
something seeded for you next filter.
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post #3 of 19 Old 09-01-2007, 05:27 AM Thread Starter
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i hope it lives till tomorrow

there are 3 fish in the tank, the other 2 are different kinds of goldfish, one has the big eyes and the other is multicolored. these 2 fish seem to be fine, they are swimming around and everything seems to be okay, but the gold/orange one ISNT!!

its night time now and nothing is open, im going to kmart to see if anything they have could help, im broke at the moment so i cant go out and spend hundreds on necesary items.

i WILL give the fish back to the aquarium tomorrow, if its still alive. then getting more fish once i have all the proper gear.

the reason i got them so early is because as kids we had goldfish and alls we did was put them in a bowl with some gravel and fed them every day, no water checks/filters/airstones, nothing. and they lived for years! i thought these would be the same but they clearly arnt.

you people must hate me for doing this to the fish, i dont blame you i feel pretty bad myself.

im setting up a coldwater 6 foot tank with goldfish, if you have any hints or tips for me please tell me.
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post #4 of 19 Old 09-01-2007, 05:35 AM
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hay
we all did,and do things things,don't worry
the thing is,is that you now know that you can
do something about it.Sorry i didn't know where you
were fro,m if you could atleast get a small bottle of
de-chlorinater for now,that may help,
do you not know any one who keeps fish at all ?
any chance of a picture ?

when you set up a new tank,hide an extra
sponge or two behind some decor,that way you have
something seeded for you next filter.
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post #5 of 19 Old 09-01-2007, 08:26 AM Thread Starter
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i got some stuff for it

im from australia,

i went to the shops and got some water aging stuff that takes away the chlorine, and also a ph netralizing stone thing?

i also got some pump tube with an air stone and have set this up

hopefully this will make a big difference, consindering when i first had it, it was just a tub of tap water

im setting up a coldwater 6 foot tank with goldfish, if you have any hints or tips for me please tell me.
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post #6 of 19 Old 09-01-2007, 10:39 AM
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great,
there are some other members from Australia
here so hopefully they will pop in later and help,
as there may be different products there.
still,great that you were able to get some stuff,
although i don't quite understand the PH stone ?
the next most important thing will be your filter,
as the Gold fish are great waste producers,
and the tank water will get big amounts
of Amonia,nitrate,and nitrIte.
let us know how you get on,once the stuff is in
use. :)

when you set up a new tank,hide an extra
sponge or two behind some decor,that way you have
something seeded for you next filter.
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post #7 of 19 Old 09-01-2007, 11:16 AM
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fear not pal, i did the same exact thing when I setup my first tank a couple of months ago. i wound up losing more than half the fish i started with :( just follow willows advice to a T and keep up on the water changes! get through this and you wont regret sticking it out with the hobby :)

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post #9 of 19 Old 09-01-2007, 12:24 PM
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If you cant get dechlorinator, you can just let tap water set out for a few days, the chlorine will go away.

Goldfish really need oxygenated water, so the air stone should help alot.

If you don't have a filter, you'll need to do alot alot alot more water changes...

I know you are tight on cash, but perhaps for the time being you could buy like a small one gallon-ish tank kit. They are fairly inexpensive ($10-$25) and come with a tank, light, gravel filter, and air stones. It would be cheaper in the short term and save the life of the fish. Plus, later down the road that would make a good quarantine tank.

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post #10 of 19 Old 09-01-2007, 01:09 PM
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If you cant get dechlorinator, you can just let tap water set out for a few days, the chlorine will go away.
Best of luck![/i]
Hg:

Virtually all of the disinfectant utilized in potable water systems is chloramine instead of chlorine.
Chlorine is now only typically used in the disinfection of water mains which have been installed and which do not communicate with existing water mains.

Chloramine will not dissipate with "setting with an open water surface" for a few days and chloramine is lethal to fish.

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