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post #11 of 35 Old 07-24-2008, 08:17 AM
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Was the gravel from a tank with fish in it ? was it taken directly from cycled tank and put in while it was wet?

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post #12 of 35 Old 07-24-2008, 08:26 AM Thread Starter
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i took down my cycled 30 gallon with fish cuz it had a leak i put all my gavel in buckets with some fish food and a heater (and water )
the gravel was never out of the water for more than 5 seconds

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post #13 of 35 Old 07-24-2008, 08:38 AM
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Is there a fishstore close that would test your water if you brought them a sample? Of course if they use test strips rather than liquid test it may not be much help. Did you add all the fish at once? how many were added? It is possible that there is or has been a small ammonia spike without accurate water test it is difficult to say what the problem is for certain. With the test results much could be eliminated or identified as possible cause. And it could very well be that he swallowed something he shouldn't have. :(

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post #14 of 35 Old 07-24-2008, 08:44 AM Thread Starter
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my lfs uses strips to
all the fish have bin in for at least a month
i think it was a rock cuz i never saw any thing get sick that quick
is there any thing to do for him if he did swallow some thing

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post #15 of 35 Old 07-24-2008, 02:06 PM
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I would probably check to see if you can see the rock lodged in its mouth, and if you can take sterile tweezers and see if you can't pluck it out manually... This is probably dangerous and I wouldn't do it until you get someone elses ok on it. But definitely check if you can see the gravel (if thats what it is) in there.

And just before you laid dead weight upon its shores, I stung you in the face for that's the nature of my core.
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post #16 of 35 Old 07-24-2008, 02:21 PM Thread Starter
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i cant see any thing

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post #17 of 35 Old 07-24-2008, 02:25 PM
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i cant see any thing
Hows his condition? Has he improved.. Gotten worse?

Are your other fish ok?

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post #18 of 35 Old 07-24-2008, 02:42 PM Thread Starter
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hes worse my other fish are fine

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post #19 of 35 Old 07-24-2008, 03:06 PM
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Do you think that the gravel might be small enough for him to pass it without killing himself? I can't really see this turning out any other way. If he has indeed ingested a rock, unless theres a way to cause fish to vomit, I would imagine its got to come out the other way right?

I've been looking around on the internet. And theres many things people said to do. While the fish appears that he can't close his mouth is apparently the best time to try and remove it with tweezers.

Others say the fish will in fact regurgitate it, the fish could have the rock in its belly for a good week before it manages to spit it out.

I found someone recommending the when using proper dosage (That wasn't mentioned but I'll keep looking) Epsoms salt will encourage the fish to vomit.

I found an interesting story actually, I wouldn't dare try this. But theres no way this fish could have spat this up. http://anythingfish.com/images/Ted/P...ailSurgery.htm

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post #20 of 35 Old 07-24-2008, 04:30 PM Thread Starter
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R.I.P. fire mouth
i got a liquid ammonia and liquid nitrite test
ammonia .30 ppm
nitrite .25 ppm
and i think i know why
the gravel i put in was in a bucket with fish food too much food
the beneficial bacteria couldnt keep up with it
poor fish
im doing water changes to try to lower it

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