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Old 06-28-2013, 09:23 PM   #11
 
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Viral hemorrhagic septicemia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is a condition found more in wild fish, but I thought it might be the condition that is being the problem as ZivaD mentioned. Are the guppies wild caught? I can't really seem to otherwise place what is happening with the brown spots,or the hemorrhaging. Perhaps a more advanced aquarist could suggest something?

The tank isn't quite cycled, this may of caused some of the die-off with your ammonia levels in the beginning.

So, I hope you don't mind but I did want to mention that I am personally not comfortable with how you've stocked the tank. My highest concern is the goldfish and the loaches- because they can and will get so very large. They are really going to need a bigger tank, considering you have a community in there. I would imagine the single goldfish would be fine in that tank, but with everyone else in there it really is too much. Might I suggest doing a bit more research on the loaches and the goldfish? I highly encourage you to upgrade tank size, or perhaps do some re-homing. It really isn't healthy for the fish,and as hobbyist I know that is your top priority too.

Everyone here would gladly help provide information on loaches and goldfish,and perhaps find some other options from your tank? Or even work to help find another options so that you may keep those fish, but set up another tank.
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Old 06-28-2013, 09:48 PM   #12
 
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Viral hemorrhagic septicemia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is a condition found more in wild fish, but I thought it might be the condition that is being the problem as ZivaD mentioned. Are the guppies wild caught? I can't really seem to otherwise place what is happening with the brown spots,or the hemorrhaging. Perhaps a more advanced aquarist could suggest something?
No actually this is very possible. If you look more into Hemorrhagic septicema you'll as you found the viral wild version... but also specifically look up the version found in aquarium fish. It is not viral but instead bacterial and a product almost always of high ammonia which we have in fact established is 1 of the issues at hand in this tank. Most likely from a fatal mix of cycling a tank that is lso very overstocked and underfiltered for the fish that are in there. Which wil be more a problem the larger they all grow if they do not die.
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Old 06-28-2013, 09:51 PM   #13
 
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If you work for a shop get some mature media from work to jump start the cycle. Get enough & there will be no cycling issue at all. As mentioned, drop that temperature, huge water changes & hose it with Prime. Working for a shop you should at least be able to get an employee discount, or swing a deal for a used larger tank from a customer you talk into upgrading. I'd shoot for selling someone with a 55 a nice new 120, and offer to buy their old 55. Work will love ya!

No comment on stocking, if you can make it work have at it. I've seen stranger mixes that worked, I'd be concerned about the eventual size of some of those fish.
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Old 06-28-2013, 10:39 PM   #14
 
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If the ammonia is 1-2 ppm and there are no nitrites or nitrates, the I would say that the tank is still in the beginning stage of the cycle.


As far as the heater is concerned - turning the temp down on the heater will only cool the tank if the ambient air temp is even lower than the lower temp to which you have set the heater. If there is an indicator light, is it on??


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Old 06-30-2013, 05:33 AM   #15
 
Okay so I'm working on 20% water changes daily now. Or should I aim for more? It takes a ridiculous amount of time for my tank to drain because of the syphon set-up I have... I'll be testing my water again Monday when I go back to work.

I was supposed to bring home thing of used filter floss for the bacteria jump-start but I completely forgot at the end of my shift (I'm going to the Bonx zoo today so that's all I had on my mind X_x). But I should be bringing it home come Monday night.

One of my guppies had a successful birth!! Everyone before her would give birth then die shortly after. I managed to save one of the babies whom I'm going to try to raise it as a victory of getting my tank where it should be ._. It's in my deluxe breeder net thingy.

Agent13 - I'm thinking about trading in my clown loaches for a red tail blue botia... I wanted to keep my loaches until they were about 5 inches, maybe and trade them back to my store for a little extra credit.. lol

ZivaD - Yeah, kinda. It was more like spots instead of just one big red spot..

jaysee - Woah, huh? Can you word that differently? That kinda went over my head.. o_o

My heater is now set for 68 and it keeps my tank a little lower than 80 now.
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Old 06-30-2013, 05:47 AM   #16
 
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Sure. If the air temp is 75 and you turn the heater down to 70, the tank will not go to 70, because the air is 75. I asked if the indicator light for the heater is on to determine if the heater was working. If you have the heater set to 68 and the tank is maintaining 80 with the indicator light on, then the heater is just off on its calibration, or is perhaps in the process of failing.
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Old 06-30-2013, 10:22 AM   #17
 
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For quicker water changes get about 6' of larger bore hose, like the size of garden hose. This is available by the foot at any home improvement or hardware store. Get a large piece of sponge for the tank side, this should be available at your shop, this will keep fish from being sucked in. You should be able to drain 3-5 gallons per minute with this setup, depending on how high the tank is & how low the bucket is. 20% daily isn't enough for a tank that's cycling with fish, 50% to 80% will keep things safer for your fish.
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