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Old 08-08-2008, 12:56 PM   #11
 
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i know that waiting to see what happens is the hardest part.
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Old 08-08-2008, 05:05 PM   #12
 
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10 ppm for nitrates is high
Usually anything under 20 is considered ideal...unless your running a saltwater tank.
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Old 08-08-2008, 06:52 PM   #13
 
Alright so, watched him for the day...has been swimming around much more since I gave him the pea. Now it's nighttime and I think he's going to resume resting on the bottom (I look over and behold, he is). Whats strange is that he never really rested on the bottom at night much until recently...still perplexed and worried.
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Old 08-08-2008, 09:14 PM   #14
 
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10 ppm for nitrates is high
Usually anything under 20 is considered ideal...unless your running a saltwater tank.
well, the fish is already sick, so i figured 10 is probably plenty high. he doesnt need high nitrates adding stress, ya know?
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Old 08-09-2008, 09:33 AM   #15
 
I'm starting to wonder if this is a swim bladder issue...he's been "head standing" while resting every so often now, and when he eats the pea he's practically completely vertical. The only reason I ruled it out in the first place is because the main issue was he was resting at the bottom. Now, if he's not resting on the bottom I'll frequently find him floating towards the top--either with only the nose touching the surface (not necessarily gulping for air) or the very base of the tail. SO strange.
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Old 08-09-2008, 09:48 AM   #16
 
I'm almost positive he's suffering from swim bladder right now, because everything seems to add up to that. THe headstanding is new, as of yesterday. What else can I do???[/code]
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Old 08-09-2008, 10:20 AM   #17
 
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Very well could be a swim bladder problem. I have 2 fancies and one of mine has similar traits to yours - headstands, rests on the bottom, floats up to the top. The only thing that really make me think my scenario points to a swim bladder issue is that mine tends to swim sideways a lot for a brief amount of time, and even occasionally does a back-flip. He seems to only do it when he is trying to turn around. Fancy goldfish tend to be very awkward swimmers due to their body shape, and the fact that they are more suceptable to swim-bladder related problems.

Other than my goldfish's tendancy to be an awkward swimmer, all signs point to him being healthy. Very active, good appetite, good coloration, healthy gills, clear eyes, free of any obvious physical illness/injury. Is this the same case with yours?

I would just make sure you are varying his diet, and not just feed him flakes. I would buy sinking pellets instead of flakes, and soak them for a 1 minute or 2 before feeding your fish. This will ensure that the pellet is water-logged and that no excess air will be ingested. Also, flakes tend to float on the surface, and your goldfish will most definitely gulp in some air trying to eat the flake, which would interfere with their swim-bladder, and cause other problems. In addition to sinking pellets, like I said before, it is important to make sure you are varying your golfish's diet. Shrimp pellets, brine shrimp, bloodworms, algae discs, Spirulina, plant matter, blanched vegetables, blanched fresh-greens other than iceburg, deshelled peas (my two love these). It is important to feed them a good amount of food that is low in protein, like vegetables and fruits. Just make sure it's all softened up by either soaking in water, or boiling.

In the near future I hope you get a much bigger tank for your goldfish. 10 gallons is much too small, and your fish will quickly outgrow the tank if it hasn't already. He will be a much happier fish, and live a longer life.
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Old 08-09-2008, 11:39 AM   #18
 
Believe me, I've been looking at bigger tanks. Where could I find an inexpensive, say, 20 gallon??? Or am I doomed to have to pay upwards of $50?

I've done the sinking pellets before, I'll do that again. Sometimes he does swim sideways but only when he's turning a corner or something...
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Old 08-09-2008, 12:30 PM   #19
 
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I've had incredible luck with Craigslist.com at finding inexpensive fish tanks and accessories. You could also look in other classified ads like in your paper. And hey, there's always a birthday, christmas, hanukkah, or anniversary with a mate - even putting a little aside every couple weeks or every month, you'd be surprised how fast money could build up. All of those could contribute to you getting a new, larger tank and more efficient filter, which would be the best for the fish.

So long as the the fishes condition doesn't inhibit him from eating, or getting around. If you see him struggling to stay right-side-up, having trouble to swim period, getting bloated with raised scales, then you know it's getting to be a serious problem. Best of luck, hope your fish stays healthy.
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Old 08-09-2008, 03:25 PM   #20
 
Thanks, a close friend and moderator just recommended craigslist to me as well. I"m going to check it out. I'd found a 20gal for $30 but I'll see if I can do better. He seems to be doing a little better this afternoon so I"ll keep watching him.
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