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post #1 of 33 Old 06-20-2012, 06:52 PM Thread Starter
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Fish Mysteriously Dying... 20L

Ok so as of the as 2-3 days I've had 1 fish die on me overnight. At first it was a couple guppies - thought "ehhh its just a guppy" not the first time its happened - bad batches or something in their store tank ya? Then today I awoke to see that my dwarf groumi was dead. This could be another "ehhh bad batch" deal since they werent the best gouramis in the world, but im starting to worry. My bumble bee platy didnt look so well this morning and when i went home for lunch she had disappeared =( I fear the worst.

Anyways had done readings last night, everything is fine, little bit of ammonia which i thought might be to mucking up the substrate a few hours before the test. Gonna do a cleaning/water change this afternoon see if that gets rid of anything.

I had recently added some guppies and the dwarf, though this sudden fish death syndrome seems to be striking some of my older fish not just new. Tanks been established for well over 2 months now - previously upgraded from a 5 - used the same substrate and water to kick start my new tank.

I have a AC70 on it, plenty fake plant hiding places, no new decorations.

Is this a parasite? I've already dropped in some aqua safe and melafix gonna maybe try the jungle tabs. =\ is it possible its the ammonia and its spiking at night or something?

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platies
guppies
cory
golden ram
neon tetra
danios
balloon molly
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Ok so as of the as 2-3 days I've had 1 fish die on me overnight. At first it was a couple guppies - thought "ehhh its just a guppy" not the first time its happened - bad batches or something in their store tank ya? Then today I awoke to see that my dwarf groumi was dead. This could be another "ehhh bad batch" deal since they werent the best gouramis in the world, but im starting to worry. My bumble bee platy didnt look so well this morning and when i went home for lunch she had disappeared =( I fear the worst.

Anyways had done readings last night, everything is fine, little bit of ammonia which i thought might be to mucking up the substrate a few hours before the test. Gonna do a cleaning/water change this afternoon see if that gets rid of anything.

I had recently added some guppies and the dwarf, though this sudden fish death syndrome seems to be striking some of my older fish not just new. Tanks been established for well over 2 months now - previously upgraded from a 5 - used the same substrate and water to kick start my new tank.

I have a AC70 on it, plenty fake plant hiding places, no new decorations.

Is this a parasite? I've already dropped in some aqua safe and melafix gonna maybe try the jungle tabs. =\ is it possible its the ammonia and its spiking at night or something?

stock:

platies
guppies
cory
golden ram
neon tetra
danios
balloon molly
Sounds way overstocked. That could be the root of the problems you're having. You need to be doing daily water changes of 50% until you figure it out.

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Sounds way overstocked. That could be the root of the problems you're having.
I have less than 20 fish most less an inch or smaller, a 20 L should be fine with this and i havent had issues in the past couple of months? Something a little more constructive would be appreciated.
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I have less than 20 fish most less an inch or smaller, a 20 L should be fine with this and i havent had issues in the past couple of months? Something a little more constructive would be appreciated.
A 20l- as in 5 gallons?
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I have less than 20 fish most less an inch or smaller, a 20 L should be fine with this and i havent had issues in the past couple of months? Something a little more constructive would be appreciated.
If you aren't going to listen to the advice it will not help you. Your tank is way overstocked. That number of fish should be in a 60L or larger tank. You should see zero ammonia in an established tank, and stirring up the substrate would not add a noticeable amount of ammonia to the tank.. You can treat the tank with whatever you would like but as long as you keep the tank overstock you will continue to lose fish.
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I have less than 20 fish most less an inch or smaller, a 20 L should be fine with this and i havent had issues in the past couple of months? Something a little more constructive would be appreciated.
Go to aqadvisor.com and put your info into their stocking calculator. Post your %'s on this thread.You'll see that its no mystery your fish are dying.

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Go to aqadvisor.com and put your info into their stocking calculator. Post your %'s on this thread.You'll see that its no mystery your fish are dying.

You have plenty of aquarium filtration capacity.

Your aquarium filtration capacity for above selected species is 177%.
Recommended water change schedule: 40% per week.
Your aquarium stocking level is 92%. [Generate Image]
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And 20L generally stands for 20 (Gal) Long
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Where I'm from L stands for liters, not long. Especially if you put a number infront of it. Take into consideration all the metric system users on here.
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If you aren't going to listen to the advice it will not help you. Your tank is way overstocked. That number of fish should be in a 60L or larger tank. You should see zero ammonia in an established tank, and stirring up the substrate would not add a noticeable amount of ammonia to the tank.. You can treat the tank with whatever you would like but as long as you keep the tank overstock you will continue to lose fish.
You have plenty of aquarium filtration capacity.

Your aquarium filtration capacity for above selected species is 177%.
Recommended water change schedule: 40% per week.
Your aquarium stocking level is 92%. [Generate Image]
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