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fin rot and cottony stuff floating around HELP!!!!????
Old 01-29-2007, 10:43 PM   #1
 
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fin rot and cottony stuff floating around HELP!!!!????

Thanks for reading any help would be appreciated. Without going into major detail of my set up (which is a 75 gallon freshwater close to 10 years old) I am absolutely stumped after bringing home a few additional dojo loaches a couple months ago. The following symptoms began within 48 hours. They keep breaking out in fin rot, and there is some white (cottony, ummmm fluffy, ummmm slimey) stuff that appears to float around and collect on the intake of filter. I am unable to locate any source of this goop, it just kind of floats around, not alot of it by anymeans just enough to notice.

I've been treating with an assortment of antibiotics/antifungals lastly "Binox". And I seem to get them looking healed (though the white goop still appears on intake of filter). When just as I'm about to put carbon back in and think I got the problem licked, BLAM there go the fins looking all ratty again.

I've contacted the store where I bought these last fish imploring for some insight because I am positive that something funky came from his shop. No I was not rude, I understand no one has complete control. Still I was met with deniability. As stated before this tank has been a hobby of mine for years and I've never seen anything like this. The only new factor was a few dojo loaches.

In advance thanks again if anyone knows of a disease with these symptoms (fin rot, white goop free floating in water). A treatment is desperately sought after.
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Old 01-29-2007, 10:50 PM   #2
 
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Hi Scott.

Can I ask for your pictures?:) Pictures will help make faster diagnosis.:)
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Old 01-29-2007, 11:39 PM   #3
 
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I have tried to post an image but "upload picture" is not working for me?
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Old 01-29-2007, 11:41 PM   #4
 
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Re: pic

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I have tried to post an image but "upload picture" is not working for me?
Have you tried the procedures in this link?:)
http://www.fishforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2500
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Old 01-29-2007, 11:58 PM   #5
 
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Phew ok had to resize and such, thanks. Anyway this was just taken a few moments ago showing the goop on intake. Maybe I can get a better pic later of that. And the loach who looks ratty now dosen't wanna hold still so I don't have a pic of the fish but it simply looks like tattered fins.

Oh the water is yellow from the binox medicine.
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Old 01-30-2007, 03:10 AM   #6
 
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I would ask for your water parameters. The white stuff surely can't have been formed due to the binding of the med to the suspended particles in the water, can it? What are the ingredients of 'Binox'?
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Old 01-30-2007, 10:52 AM   #7
 
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all of the water parameters are the same as they have been for years. And fall within safe ranges on tests that I've used.The ingrediants of "binox" are sodium chloride, and nitrofurazone.

The white goopy stuff showed up before any meds were added. Just a reminder I have had this tank up and running for years with no trouble (after learning about checking ph years ago that is). Not over crowded, not aggressive fish. I've had dojo loaches all of this time. I decided to add a couple more dojo loaches and within 2 days fin rot and this white goop have appeared.

My main question is does anyone know of any disease or ichy type thing that creates white goop free floating in tank? I'm able with medication to get the fin and tail rot to heal, but the white goop continues to show up, then the rot comes back. So I am guessing if I can terminate the source of the white goop I can then heal up the fish and I can have my crystal clear healthy tank back.

Thanks again for any input.
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Old 01-30-2007, 06:48 PM   #8
 
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Scott, what other meds were you using? You said the white goopy stuff already showed up before you add any meds. I have my inference that the nitrofurazone failed to be absorbed by your dojos' bodies.

Just for once, loaches are often scaleless and sensitive to medications especially nitrofurazone.
http://www.marineaquariumadvice.com/...-of-Choice.htm

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Nitrofurazone is another good choice for treating many different bacterial infections and is packaged by Aquatronics as FuracynT. This antibiotic is also well absorbed by the fish and can be used like Minocycline for either internal or external infections. You should note that some scaleless fish have been reported to be sensitive to Nitrofurazone, and it is carcinogenic. Nitrofurazone is used as a one-time dose (first day only) of 30 to 40 mg per gallon for a three- to five-day treatment. Dim the lighting when using antibiotics. Nitrofurazone in particular is inactivated by light. This antibiotic has some antiparasitic action and can be helpful when used along with formalin dips for treating Uronema marinum.
I wonder if users of Bettamax and Spectograms also have the same situation as yours like that white stuff. Both meds I mentioned also have nitrofurazone as their ingredient.

I got this from another site as an information regarding the use of nitrofurazone.

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Prolonged exposure to nitrofurazone can cause fish to stop breeding, but this usually does not occur the way we use it on our aquarium fish.
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Old 01-30-2007, 07:38 PM   #9
 
White stringy growth is a fungus. Do a 50% water change and treat the tank with a fungicide and watch how much you are feeding your fish. The condition has occurred in my tanks, mostly new setups, where I have pushed the parameters of a new tank. It has occurred once in an established tank when I decided to change the neighborhood and stretched the capacity of the bio-bed. You may have to do a gravel sweep to make sure that minimal detritus is trapped in the gravel bed. Also, monitor the situation and perform water changes as needed. Maybe as often as every other day. Good luck.
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Old 01-30-2007, 09:37 PM   #10
 
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ok I will try a "major" water change. I've only been doing 10-20 gallons at a time so far. Any suggestions on a med to use? Binox(nitrofurazone) is what I have on hand so It's what I'm gonna use tonite and hopefully not "stop fish from breathing". Plus I'm thinking to pull all decorations and let them dry out to hopefully kill the fungus on them (or should I just pitch them?) . So it will be 5 dojo loaches and 2 chinese algae eaters in a (gravel and marbles only bottom) 75 gallon freshwater tank. 2 emporer 400 filters with the carbon removed from cartridges. And will turn off the light on tank.

Another fungacide (fin and tail rot fixer upper) safe for scaleless fish recommendation would be appreciated.
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