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post #1 of 6 Old 11-14-2007, 03:12 PM Thread Starter
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fat betta

I have a betta in a 5 g hex Eclipse tank. He seems like he is fat and old but not necessarily sick. He spends a lot of time sleeping or just laying in the leaves of the plants. He doesn't come up to look at me anymore and only swims around rarely. He only eats one or two pellets before going back under his bridge or into his plants.
His belly is huge though and I wonder if it is just fat or a problem. I've had him about 6 months or so but he was full sized when I got him so I don't know how old he is.
He does have cherry shrimp tank mates. Originally there were 6 of them and one looked like she had eggs. I never saw babies though so I think he ate them all up. After a time I was down to 3 shrimp so I brought 6 more big ones in from home and all 9 are in there still.
The water is good - ammonia 0 nitrite 0 and nitrate 5. He has a little hornwart and a small anubias in with him and I change about a third of the water every couple of weeks or so.
Is he just fat and old or does this huge belly mean a problem?


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28 gallon bowfront
2 mosquito fish from a school project that started all of this.
6 long finned leopard Danios
2 powder blue Dwarf Gourami
1 zebra loach
3 spotted corys
2 otos
a handful of cherry shrimp
some random plants
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post #2 of 6 Old 11-14-2007, 04:30 PM
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maybe you could vary his diet a little ?
maybe offer a cooked shelled pea for him to try,
might perk him up a little,
do you feed him any live food at all ?

when you set up a new tank,hide an extra
sponge or two behind some decor,that way you have
something seeded for you next filter.
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post #3 of 6 Old 11-14-2007, 05:13 PM
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Have any other pics? Maybe different angle/closer?

1/8 teaspoon of epsom salt could help.

Are his scales raised?
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post #4 of 6 Old 11-15-2007, 03:02 PM Thread Starter
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maybe you could vary his diet a little ?
maybe offer a cooked shelled pea for him to try,
might perk him up a little,
do you feed him any live food at all ?
you mean other than any Cherry shrimp babies that happen along? No. I have some flake food he won't eat. I tried a cooked pea once after he ate all the shrimp and first got fat. He wouldn't eat it.

His scales aren't raised. It's hard to get a picture since he's in my lab at work and I can't turn out all the lights so I get a lot of reflections.
I netted him and held the net up against the side of the tank trying for a better shot. This was the best of a bad bunch....

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28 gallon bowfront
2 mosquito fish from a school project that started all of this.
6 long finned leopard Danios
2 powder blue Dwarf Gourami
1 zebra loach
3 spotted corys
2 otos
a handful of cherry shrimp
some random plants
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post #5 of 6 Old 11-15-2007, 06:33 PM
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He definitely seems bloated! I would suggest for a few days don't give him anything to eat other that the peas, and if he gets hungry he might try to eat one.

Your water parameters do seem perfect so I don't see if being any sort of water issue. The epsom salts could help as Mike suggested.
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post #6 of 6 Old 11-16-2007, 12:28 PM
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This is either an indication of the beginning phases of dropsy or internal parasites. There are meds you can try if it's parasite, but I'll need to look up and find the right combination for you. Bettas are sensitive to a lot of meds and a lot of the common meds don't work with the bettas. If it turns out to be dropsy, it isn't curable, all you can do is keep the fish comfy until it's time comes. The meds won't hurt if it is dropsy, so it's worth the try. I'll post back later after I've done some research on what best to use. I've dealt with this in many fish, very few lived beyond 6 months from this stage of illness, and only 1 ever was relieved of the bloating. Keeping the water extremely clean is the best thing you could do, and keep it warm between 78 - 82. A 1 - 2 gallon water change every 1 - 2 days would help a lot and may help increase the appetite. Have you tried to feed live adult brine shrimp? This would be very healthy and very tempting to get him to eat. If you can get him to accept the live brine, medicating him would be much easier for you, too.
I'll be back with meds instructions later today/tonight sometime.

Dawn Moneyhan
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Juneau, WI
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