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post #11 of 18 Old 11-15-2006, 05:23 AM
OK back to where I can continue.

2nd day
20% WC
increase salt concentration to 1Tblspn/15G.
increase temperature to 82F

3rd day (most of ich signs had gone away)
20% WC
increase salt concentration to 1Tblspn/10G
increase temperature to 84F

4th day (only one small spot remained)
just did a 20% WC
added salt to maintain a concentration of 1Tblspn/10G
left temperature at 84F

5th day (all observable symptoms of ich were gone)
did a 20% WC
added salt to maintain a concentration of 1Tblspn/10G
left temperature at 84F

6th and 7th days
did a 20% WC
added salt to maintain a concentration of 1Tblspn/10G
left temperature at 84F

On 8th day I reversed the process

Each day I did a 20% water change and reduced the temperature 1F/day until I had reached a salt concentration of 1Tblspn/20G and my typical 78F temperature.

I maintained the salt concentration at 1Tblspn/20G for an additional 7 days.

I know this algorithm seems "convoluted" but I did not lose any of my very, very fancy show guppies.

If on the 5th day the ich is not gone please advise me as the literature recommends higher salt concetrations and temperature.

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post #12 of 18 Old 11-15-2006, 09:06 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks

Thanks! I will try these steps and see what happens. Already sounds similar to what I am doing but maybe I haven't added enough salt. Will try this and hope it works because there's still no change in what I'm doing now and I've been treating this now for 3 weeks.

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post #13 of 18 Old 11-15-2006, 10:56 AM
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I have done the same thing except I got the Ich from my LFS and lost my best male and female swords.

On AA, they actually recommend against using any chemical but use a technique of raising the temperature up to 86-88 degrees until it is gone. Personally I treated with coppersafe but anytime I treat, I also add Melafix or something that is supposed to help with fin rot. I know it is going to happen because of the stress the fish go through and it seems to limit lossed if I dose it from the beginning.

Sorry for your losses. My wife won't let me buy fish from Wal-Mart because there is almost always 1/3 or more of the tanks that have ich or dead fish.
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post #14 of 18 Old 11-15-2006, 11:11 AM Thread Starter
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My husband freaks out when I order fish because it's so expensive to have them shipped. We live in the middle of no where here in TN and finding a pet store with descent fish is impossible so it's safer to pay the extra bucks to order them. Had I not slipped up and bought from Wal Mart I would still have my expensive guppies. I have lost my red variaged snakeskin guppies and a few of my Half Black Yellows but do have a few left and I'm really hoping to save them or I'll have to start from scratch.

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post #15 of 18 Old 11-21-2006, 07:48 PM Thread Starter
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Finally!

I finally have this thing under control. At least I think anyway. Too bad I lost all of my best breeding guppies and only left with 3 cull males and a about 4 babies. I still never lost any of the neons and now they look better than ever. I did the maintaining the water temp above 80 degrees and did 25% water changes every day with adding the salt. I also had to add Melafix and Primafix and that quickly took care of the fin rot. Too bad I didn't have any of that stuff earlier. I might could have saved my guppies. Nothing else I had was really helping with the fin rot. I'll have to get some more of that to keep on hand. At least I'm finally getting my tank back to what it was before all this mess.

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I finally have this thing under control. At least I think anyway. Too bad I lost all of my best breeding guppies and only left with 3 cull males and a about 4 babies. I still never lost any of the neons and now they look better than ever. I did the maintaining the water temp above 80 degrees and did 25% water changes every day with adding the salt. I also had to add Melafix and Primafix and that quickly took care of the fin rot. Too bad I didn't have any of that stuff earlier. I might could have saved my guppies. Nothing else I had was really helping with the fin rot. I'll have to get some more of that to keep on hand. At least I'm finally getting my tank back to what it was before all this mess.
Sorry to hear that. Are you still planning to buy more guppies again? But they can be quite expensive.
That's odd that the neons still survive.

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That's odd that the neons still survive.
Not really.

These show guppies are the least hardy fish in my tank other than my QA plecs.

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I can't believe this

As soon as I think I'm out of the clear I find another guppy today with a couple of ick spots. It's just one fish and the rest look better than ever. The neons seem to be an even brighter color than they already were. I can't believe after all I have done the ick is still in there. So I guess I'll have to start all over again. I went ahead and through the fish with ick out. It wasn't a very good one anyway and I didn't have an extra tank to put it in. So I'm starting the treatment all over again, raising the temp and the salt.
I had just ordered more guppies too because I thought I was in the clear. They are suppose to ship Monday. If I find another one with ick before then I'll probably cancel my order or ask them to ship them in a few more weeks. I just can't believe this happening. All my years with fish I've never had a stubborn ick problem like this. It's always just gone away with one treatment in the past.

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