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Black Moor has white spots
Old 04-24-2014, 09:54 AM   #1
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Unhappy Black Moor has white spots

1. Size of tank? 10 gallons

2. Water parameters
a. Ammonia? 25
b. Nitrite? .5
c. Nitrate? 20
d. pH, KH and GH? 8.4, 180, 300
e. Test kit? Test strips

3. Temperature? Room temp, about 72 F

4. FW (fresh water) or BW (brackish)? Freshwater

5. How long the aquarium has been set up? Two weeks

6. What fish do you have? How many are in your tank? How big are they? How long have you had them?
Black Moor, just the one. Large sized, had it six days.
7. Were the fish placed under quarantine period (minus the first batch from the point wherein the tank is ready to accommodate the inhabitants)? In the tank by itself, though was with other fish at the store.

8. a. Any live plants? Fake plants? No plants
b. Sand, gravel, barebottom?River rock
c. Rocks, woods, fancy decors? Any hollow decors? No decor.

9. a. Filtration? 10-15 gallon Aqua Tech filter
b. Heater? no heater

10. a. Lighting schedule? What lights are used? Lights are on from about 7 am to 9/10 pm. Using GE bulbs, not sure wattages.
b. Any sunlight exposure? How long? no sun exposure

11. a. Water change schedule? Changed weekly
b. Volume of water changed? 50%
c. Well water, tap water, RO water? Tap water
d. Water conditioner used? Aqua safe
e. Frequency of gravel/sand (if any) vacuumed? Lightly vacuum over river rock

12. Foods? Wardley Goldfish flakes
How often are they fed? One to two times a day

13. a. Any abnormal signs/symptoms? White spots all over body
b. Appearance of poop? Haven't seen it poop
c. Appearance of gills? Looks fine to me

14. a. Have you treated your fish ahead of diagnosis? Have not treated fish yet
b. What meds were used?

15. Insert photos of fish in question and full tank shot if necessary.
Full tank picture:

White spotted black moor:

Okay, this fish was an impulse buy. I admit I shouldn't have bought it, but I was trying to keep my husband from putting a caught sunfish from a local pond in the tank. I set the tank up to cycle it and we happened to be at a Walmart that had Black Moor and I bought one. I thought it do okay, but yesterday I noticed it was spotted with white dots. I think it is Ich and I'm not sure if I should treat the fish with the salt and heat method or the Malachite green method. Help! I'd hate for it to die. :(
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Old 04-24-2014, 01:09 PM   #2
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Looks like ich alright. You also have it in an uncycled tank, hence your stats and the amount of ich...that's a nasty, nasty outbreak. Black moors need 30-40 gallons as a minimum too, in a ten gallon they'll spike up the ammonia really bad and make themselves sick, the fact it wasn't cycled anyways made -everything- worse.

Heat and goldfish really don't get along. Try another method that doesn't require it if you can. I'm not sure he's going to pull through, I hate to say it, he looks pretty bad. But try, perhaps he will perk up. Get some prime to treat your water to help detoxify the ammonia and nitrites in the water, do a large change, you'll be needing to at least once a day if not more(about 30-40%). An airstone may also help out a bit, he'll be having trouble getting enough air while sick as is, especially with toxins in the water which often give them labored breathing and make them lethargic. You gotta get it down, it will kill him, even if he didn't have ich it's bad for them, so water changes, prime, treat for ich. I know nothing about malachite green, so if it's goldfish safe and doesn't require the temp to be above 80F, it's probably a better choice.

If he pulls through, and I hope he does, you'll be wanting to get him a bigger tank, and one with double filtration. For now since he's small, a ten gallon will be easier to treat him in as is, should he live if you fix him he wont bring it to the new tank with him. If you can't get him a larger tank, you should take him back, it'll be a very sad existence in a ten gallon tank, no goldfish can fit in one for long, even as youngsters.
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Old 04-24-2014, 02:31 PM   #3
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Poor thing I feel so awful. :( I have a 30 gallon tank, but it has an angel fish in it. I knew better than to get it, but I can't take it back because we got it from a town that is an hour and half away.
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