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post #1 of 22 Old 02-25-2013, 08:21 AM Thread Starter
Best way for ME to get rid of ich.

Need to figure out the best way to treat my fish.

FluvalEdge 6gal
6 serpae tetra (1 x 1.5" 5 x < 1")
6 weeks in to fish in cycle, largest fish has been in since day 3. other 5 have been in for less than a week.

Not sure if i technically finished cycle. Live plants use ammonia so ammonia is at zero but nitrites have not been at zero. Live plants have been introduced slowly over the last 2-3 weeks. Java Fern, Anacharis, and Crypt Parva. Also one decorative lava rock.


Ammonia - 0 - api
Nitrite - - api and tetra easystrip
nitrate - 0-20 - api and tetra easystrip
Gh - 75 - 150 - Tetra EasyStrip
Chlorine - 0 - Tetra EasyStrip
KH - 120-180 - Tetra EasyStrip
pH - 7.2 - 7.8 api and tetra easystrip
temp - 73* - 75*

Been doing 20-50% water changes depending on the readings. been water changing every 3-4 days. Again depending on readings and how much food they let get to the bottom. They don't have any interest in food thats on the substrate.

With high nitrites, new fish, huge water changes, and new surroundings i think that stress is the most likely culprit of this situation.

Now i just need to figure the best method for treatment. Temp and salt seems to be the preferred method. Would i need to go get a different heater and just use that one instead? Even if all fish dont show signs of Ich yet would i be better off treating them all in the tank rather than quarantine?

Thanks guys!

p.s. I am aware of being a little over stocked. I have a plan in motion to re-home one of them for now. He is too aggressive for my tank but i need to solve this problem first. I am not going to give a fish with ich to someone else and let them worry about it, to me thats just not right.
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post #2 of 22 Old 02-25-2013, 08:59 AM
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I wouldn't add salt to the tank because of the plants unless you have a way to keep them alive in a diff. tank while you treat it.

You want to raise the temp slowly in the tank and for 6 gallons you should be using a 50w heater depending on where you live and how cold the fish room gets.

Here's a great link about Ich that Aunt Kymmie shared with me here a few years back

Ich | The Skeptical Aquarist

Good luck with treatment.

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post #3 of 22 Old 02-25-2013, 02:58 PM Thread Starter
i do have a 50w heater, it doesn't looks like you can adjust the temp at all though, does that mean i need a new one/ bigger one for treatment?
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post #4 of 22 Old 02-25-2013, 03:05 PM
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i do have a 50w heater, it doesn't looks like you can adjust the temp at all though, does that mean i need a new one/ bigger one for treatment?
I can't think of any other way that you'll be able to raise the temp unless it's adjustable.

You can always decide to go with an Ich med. like Kordon's Rid-Ich+ instead but I think most members who've dealt with Ich will agree that heat is the way to go.

A lot of people don't like to add chemicals/meds to a tank unless it's as a last resort.

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post #5 of 22 Old 02-25-2013, 03:25 PM Thread Starter
I am not far enough into the hobby to say i have had to use any chemicals but initial thoughts have me thinking i would like to stay away from chemicals. Especially with a small tank where things can get out of hand rather quickly. I have started researching nad found adjustable heaters so i may get one of those to start with and save the one i have now in case i need it for a quarantine tank later. thanks!
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I am not far enough into the hobby to say i have had to use any chemicals but initial thoughts have me thinking i would like to stay away from chemicals. Especially with a small tank where things can get out of hand rather quickly. I have started researching nad found adjustable heaters so i may get one of those to start with and save the one i have now in case i need it for a quarantine tank later. thanks!
I like that idea. You should get one fairly quickly tho. Petco brand 50w submersible fully adjustable heater has worked great for me in my 5 gallon tank.

Good luck!

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post #7 of 22 Old 02-25-2013, 04:35 PM Thread Starter
im waiting till 5:30 when my guy gets in. The guy that i talk to at petco is the genius. Petco as a whole sucks imo but this guy really knows his stuff and has even told me when its better to go to the LFS rather than his store.
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im waiting till 5:30 when my guy gets in. The guy that i talk to at petco is the genius. Petco as a whole sucks imo but this guy really knows his stuff and has even told me when its better to go to the LFS rather than his store.
It's great that you have someone you trust at a chain store. That doesn't happen too often. The Petco closest to me has outstanding bettas that are always in clean water. I judge the fish dept. on how they care for their bettas.
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post #9 of 22 Old 02-25-2013, 07:15 PM Thread Starter
I got my water heating up...rasing temp some...first dose of salt added. I removed my plants and i have a feeling i may lose them. Hope not. I have 5 java fern plants, a few anacharis (care less about bc its cheap and grows so fast), and a few Crypt Parva (my newest plant that i really don't wanna lose) Lets hope for the best!
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post #10 of 22 Old 02-26-2013, 07:48 AM Thread Starter
Unhappy

first dose...13 hours later...all 6 fish are dead

I didn't think i was this attached to these guys but i feel real bad. I know i made mistakes and i know i jumped in to it way to fast. I especially feel bad for Fishy Fisherton, he was my favorite . Sad morning to come home from work to that. where to go from here...

Obviously Ich was in my aquarium. I did one dose of salt...should i just do a huge water change, add the plants back in and start the cycle over? With no fish to host them they will die off...correct?
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