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Any ideas on what might be going on with my GBR?
Old 09-20-2011, 06:56 AM   #11
 
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Well that's good to hear, hopefully she is fine. I've been trying to watch them as much as I can. I've noticed that the male doesn't usually chase her off. Occasionally, if there's food she'll be chased off, but he'll chase anyone. Yesterday, she seemed to be eating fine. I've noticed she's apparently picky about the flake food because she'll spit a lot of it out... She eats some though, and she's getting bloodworms too.

I don't remember my ph and I'm about ready for bed so I don't want to check it right now, but it stays around 6.6-6.8 and I've occasionally seen it dip to 6.4. I'm thinking about redoing my scape with some cypress knees, I guess I was inspired by another member who had recently asked Byron about them.. I live in SC so they're all over hear, I thought it'd be a nice way to decorate with something local, while still making the fish happy. I'm not sure if they'll lower the ph or not, but they're typically (or always? not sure) from blackwater swamps, so hopefully it will be good for the ph.

I had heard to look for a "pair" in the tank when shopping, but this was the only male. There was one female that was very aggressive and very dark colored, and of the other two I picked the best looking one. I'm not sure if anyone was looking to pair with that female on her rampage.. They were so much cheaper than at the normal store I go to, so I really did want to scoop them up while I could. They just got some new ones in and I'm fairly certain I could return both of them and get two new ones - would that be better? Would the two I own now have a better chance of finding the appropriate mate? They're still young and I've only had them for about a month so they're not much, if any, bigger than the ones for sale now..

Or, is it better to possibly get another one? If I put in what I've got stocked + one more ram on aqadvisor at least, it says I'm at 94% stocking level..:



I don't know.. I think I'll give them some more time. Right now, they're both swimming around each other in the back of the tank (and maybe it's just my imagination, but she seems to look for him when he swims away, and then starts to follow him). The first week I had them, they were like attached at the hip.. I thought they would pair. The pink on her tummy is showing a bit again. I don't know that her fins are "clamped", she just always looks like she's trying to be hydrodynamic? Does that make any sense - haha.

I got this blurry picture of her. She's lost weight since I got her I think. The second picture is from the first week I had them, and they're hanging out together.



I was also told that the chasing is very normal for these fish, and to not let it stress me - fish tanks are to be enjoyed. I'm happy mine don't chase each other, because normal or not, I wouldn't like to see that, but perhaps you shouldn't worry too much. Your tank seems really stocked to me. I have a 23 gal and I just have my two and 8 Cardinals, though I will add a few more Cardinals. I wouldn't get more unless you consider trading in one group of your schooling fish, or the cory's. But I'm not expert. Give it time, she doesn't look that bad to me. Chiclids are used to being chased, just make sure she has places to hide and avoid his sight. Your ph sounds fine too, but malaysian wood looks nice and is good for these fish, as it will add tannins to the water. I wish I had tons of local plants I could use in an aqarium - none of those in the desert. LOL

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Old 09-20-2011, 10:03 PM   #12
 
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Everyone else in the tank seems super happy this week! The rasboras are, I call it, courting (play spawning? no eggs, but the whole ritual minus laying the eggs), my corys are courting as well, the nerite snails are (annoyingly) trying to breed, and one of my ghost shrimp is carrying eggs! Not that any babies will probably survive anyway, but I thought this was all pretty cool to see.
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Old 09-24-2011, 08:35 PM   #13
 
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Alright, well, I was able to exchange the GBRs for a new pair for the cost of $3 because these are a bit older, but not the biggest ones they even had at the fish store. The ones I got will go into a tank with some recent arrivals with plenty of singles to mingle with so I'm hoping they will be happy and find a mate.

We tried our best to get a mated pair, and I'm pretty damn sure we did because I HAVE EGGS! The male GBR is usually close by to them.. they're not too vigilant of parents though, if I do say so myself. Somtimes, he chases the female away though? I'm somewhat confused. Sometimes, they rub up against each other too though..

I was about to post something asking if you guys thought they were a pair or not and I was wondering why the male was stuck around the same spot. Then I looked closely and realized there are eggs!

I hope the eggs don't survive, simply because I don't want to think about the little babies getting eaten. They're brown in color right now though, which is good, right?

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That's daddy. Mommy doesn't seem to want anything to do with them most of the time..
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Old 09-25-2011, 01:34 AM   #14
 
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Brown I believe is good, if the eggs start to turn white then they were not fertilized. Sometimes it takes cichlids a few times to get it right with spawning and raising their fry.
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Old 09-25-2011, 08:49 AM   #15
 
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Yeah, I know that white is bad.. no white eggs still. Most of the eggs are still there this morning. Both mom and dad are now protecting the eggs. At least one of my corys is interested in the eggs, so they've been chasing the corys off.. but other than that, no aggression towards any other fish which is good. I feel like the cory probably knows he's risking getting nipped when he tries to get to the eggs, so I don't feel that'd cause him any undo stress.

It's going to be hard not to start trying to raise these if I see wigglers. Probably not this time, because I am in no way ready, but maybe in the month to come.
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Old 09-25-2011, 09:15 AM   #16
 
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wow how exciting! Im jealous!

Im sure its very interesting to watch!
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Old 09-25-2011, 12:28 PM   #17
 
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The corys, and any other nocturnal catfish, will usually get the eggs (or the fry) at night, when the rams' guard is down. While the female generally tends the eggs and fry, it can go either way. I had a pair of Bolivian Rams that spawned 4 or 5 times and it switched around at first but by the 3 and 4 spawning the female did the main task and the male stood close by.
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Old 09-25-2011, 12:55 PM   #18
 
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The corys, and any other nocturnal catfish, will usually get the eggs (or the fry) at night, when the rams' guard is down. While the female generally tends the eggs and fry, it can go either way. I had a pair of Bolivian Rams that spawned 4 or 5 times and it switched around at first but by the 3 and 4 spawning the female did the main task and the male stood close by.
Yepp, I'm not expecting the eggs to last too long, although they still look fine and they had to have been there for at least 24 hours. In case I decide to take on rearing some GBRs, I'd like this to go as well as it can. If they completely fail, that's ok because I understand it usually takes them a few times to get it right.

But, no eaten eggs yet, and as of right now both parents are keeping an eye on the eggs. I'm excited to see how far this goes! If they actually make it to a wiggler stage, do you think I can take them out and temporarily keep them in a 5 gallon until I can get something like a 20gal grow out ready. Could I get one ready in a week or two? I was thinking, if I did do this, I could get another sponge filter and cut the two sponges in half, leaving half of the old and half of the new for each tank? Maybe I'm too hopeful, lol. I'm still undecided and I know I've probably only got like two more days until they're wigglers! I feel like if they make it, it's fate.

I was also debating on either just sticking some moss in there and hoping for the best, and possibly temporarily moving the four corys to my 5 gallon until I can switch the babies into their own tank and then I can put the corys back.

I think it'd be fun to raise some fry at least once. And at least GBRs are a type of fish I could ask for a small amount of money for.. unlike danio or guppies. Well, not that those need to be given away for free or anything, I just know they can reproduce like crazy, haha.




And yes, Jbrofish8, I'm very excited and the more I look at the tank the more excited I get lol
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Old 09-25-2011, 03:11 PM   #19
 
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Yepp, I'm not expecting the eggs to last too long, although they still look fine and they had to have been there for at least 24 hours. In case I decide to take on rearing some GBRs, I'd like this to go as well as it can. If they completely fail, that's ok because I understand it usually takes them a few times to get it right.

But, no eaten eggs yet, and as of right now both parents are keeping an eye on the eggs. I'm excited to see how far this goes! If they actually make it to a wiggler stage, do you think I can take them out and temporarily keep them in a 5 gallon until I can get something like a 20gal grow out ready. Could I get one ready in a week or two? I was thinking, if I did do this, I could get another sponge filter and cut the two sponges in half, leaving half of the old and half of the new for each tank? Maybe I'm too hopeful, lol. I'm still undecided and I know I've probably only got like two more days until they're wigglers! I feel like if they make it, it's fate.

I was also debating on either just sticking some moss in there and hoping for the best, and possibly temporarily moving the four corys to my 5 gallon until I can switch the babies into their own tank and then I can put the corys back.

I think it'd be fun to raise some fry at least once. And at least GBRs are a type of fish I could ask for a small amount of money for.. unlike danio or guppies. Well, not that those need to be given away for free or anything, I just know they can reproduce like crazy, haha.




And yes, Jbrofish8, I'm very excited and the more I look at the tank the more excited I get lol
There is quite a strong relationship between fry and parent so I would prefer to leave them together. Moving them is risky as the stress may likely cause the parents to eat the eggs or fry. Trying to catch corys to move them might do the same. Once the eggs hatch, the fry will move around the tank in a group, with the female (and male probably). Ths is when they are easily picked off by any fish.

If the eggs/fry disappear, the parents will spawn again after a short period (can't remember exactly). Moving the pair to their own established tank prior to the next spawning would be the best course. Once they do hatch, the fry need very small food; in an established tank they will find some from infusoria and plankton among plants, etc. Adding some dry leaves (oak, beech, almond) early on helps as it produces infusoria. Newly-hatched brine shrimp (artemia) is a normal first food from the aquarist. You can also grind up flake food and soak with tank water, then squirt it into the shoal with a small pipette.
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Old 09-26-2011, 09:35 PM   #20
 
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Well, the excitement was short lived. Many of the eggs were gone this morning, all of them were gone by the time I got home. Oh well, I figured it would happen! They're young anyways.

I can't wait to see it happen again. Now, to decide on whether I want to start up another breeder tank, lol.

Thank you for all the advise though! I will keep it in mind for the future, whatever it may hold.
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