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Any ideas on what may be wrong?
Old 10-15-2013, 03:00 PM   #1
 
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Any ideas on what may be wrong?

I purchased a betta from walmart in hopes of curing him of what I had thought to be popeye. After three attempts at treating with Triple Sulfa, there has been no change. Can someone help me to identify what might be wrong? It looks like the entire eye socket has been pushed from the head by a bubble.






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Old 10-15-2013, 05:10 PM   #2
 
Oh good lands, I've never seen a case of popeye that bad.

Wow. Okay, first, odds are we're dealing with an internal, localized infection. In the words of The Betta Handbook, "the bacteria in the epithelial linings in the head produce gases that force the eyeball outward." According to this book, the only treatment for this is a gram negative antibiotic issued via medicated feed and it doesn't always work.

Now, I have to say that I'm not 100% sold on this theory about only medicated food being able to treat it. I would suggest you use Seachem Kanaplex, which is one of the few antibiotics that readily absorbs into the system through gills and skin. It can also be used to prepare medicated food if you want; there are instructions on the packaging.

Now, the downside is Kanaplex is hard to find in stores and usually has to be ordered online. :(

I would also recommend adding API Erythromycin because I've also read that a lot of eye infections are actually gram positive bacteria and that erythromycin is effective in treating this.

There is a strong possibility that he will lose the eye but as long as the resulting injury doesn't get seriously infected, he should be able to recover and will be able to live just fine without that eye.

How is his behavior otherwise? Will he eat?
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Old 10-15-2013, 10:56 PM   #3
 
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Oh good lands, I've never seen a case of popeye that bad.

Wow. Okay, first, odds are we're dealing with an internal, localized infection. In the words of The Betta Handbook, "the bacteria in the epithelial linings in the head produce gases that force the eyeball outward." According to this book, the only treatment for this is a gram negative antibiotic issued via medicated feed and it doesn't always work.

Now, I have to say that I'm not 100% sold on this theory about only medicated food being able to treat it. I would suggest you use Seachem Kanaplex, which is one of the few antibiotics that readily absorbs into the system through gills and skin. It can also be used to prepare medicated food if you want; there are instructions on the packaging.

Now, the downside is Kanaplex is hard to find in stores and usually has to be ordered online. :(

I would also recommend adding API Erythromycin because I've also read that a lot of eye infections are actually gram positive bacteria and that erythromycin is effective in treating this.

There is a strong possibility that he will lose the eye but as long as the resulting injury doesn't get seriously infected, he should be able to recover and will be able to live just fine without that eye.

How is his behavior otherwise? Will he eat?
Thank you for replying. I checked around, and none of the local pet stores have the medication. Being a high school student, I can't afford the price of the medication and shipping. I'd ask my mom, but she wanted to strangle me for taking the fish home in the first place.
He is active, but I haven't seen him eat in the almost two weeks that I have had him He doesn't look very skinny though, so I'm not worried about that yet. Triple Sulfa is the only thing I have on hand, and thats because I got it quite a while ago when I had money to spend on a betta with cottonmouth. Any other ideas? I feel terrible for making this poor guy suffer with his eye like this.
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Old 10-15-2013, 11:14 PM   #4
 
I totally understand. Meds are definitely expensive and it doesn't make sense to spend so much on a $3.99 fish.

The only other non-expensive option is to try aquarium salt at 1 tsp per gallon. Unfortunately, Triple Sulfa won't work because the meds need to go internal and Triple Sulfa does not absorb into the system. It's most effective for topical infections.

I'd like it if he'd eat because that's a sign that he's got a will to live.
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