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post #1 of 14 Old 10-11-2007, 07:38 PM Thread Starter
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Another problem....

I don't know how many other issues my tank can have, but I noticed yesterday and today, on a few of my fish, some spots that might be ich. I will try and get a picture, but I am pretty sure this is ich. I had it once before and raised the temps on my tank and dosed with salt but it melted my plants away.

I read the sticky about ich and it said to ask what meds might work with your fish or which treatment would be the best option. I do have a number of scaless fish and I don't want to damage my plants if possible as they are just starting to make a comeback. While researching on the net I read that IckGuard2 might work?

Any suggestions?

This might explain the issues with my cories but I am not sure at this point.

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post #2 of 14 Old 10-11-2007, 07:52 PM
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I use Cupramine by SeaChem. Great product, if you dont have inverts.
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post #3 of 14 Old 10-11-2007, 08:00 PM Thread Starter
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No inverts....one of my golden dojo's was up laying on my scrub magnet and its hard to see because he is so fair but there is definately a few ich on him.

If I can't get ahold of the meds I need over the weekend....what should I do? I started raising my temp with the heater but don't wan't to lose any fish over the weekend.

Is Cupramine something most LFS's carry and does it have copper? I try to avoid copper in the main tank if possible.

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post #4 of 14 Old 10-11-2007, 09:13 PM
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it does have coper.
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post #5 of 14 Old 10-12-2007, 07:51 AM Thread Starter
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Has anyone had a successful experience with products that don't have copper?

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post #6 of 14 Old 10-12-2007, 11:43 AM
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A lot of people just raise temp and add salt. It works fine just not so easy on a large scale unless you want to use a lot of salt.
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post #7 of 14 Old 10-12-2007, 02:46 PM Thread Starter
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I've used that method in the past with other fish...but I don't think my dojo's can handle too much heat and the salt could irritate all my loaches and possibly damage my plants like it did last time.

I was looking for other options with meds that are safe for my scaless fish.

Thanks though.

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post #8 of 14 Old 10-18-2007, 06:45 PM Thread Starter
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After reading up on the loach forum I decided to go with maracide concentrate. I have used two doses so far and today will be the third. I also had to treat with maracyn because of a fungal outbreak on my rainbows but as of today two rainbows have died. My water parameters are still looking good though:

Ammonia 0ppm
Nitrite 0 ppm
Nitrate a little over 5 ppm
PH still 7.8

The dojo's still look pretty awful...the most ich covered by far. Not sure what killed the rainbows...stress...meds...etc. Two others look pretty terrible, but I am not sure what else to do for them at this point. I am going to perform a small water change before the next meds dose to see if it helps but I am really concerned. Not sure how much worse it's supposed to get before I see an improvement. :(

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post #9 of 14 Old 10-18-2007, 07:07 PM
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What meds have you used so far? Not all meds are safe to the fish. Rainbows are sensitive to meds.

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post #10 of 14 Old 10-18-2007, 08:29 PM Thread Starter
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Last week I used Ich guard II for sensitive fish, but I only had two days dosage worth since no one locally had anymore. I then overnighted an order of Maracide after reading up on the loach forum about how it worked with loaches. I performed at least two 25% water changes before switching meds to Maracide and then the rainbows starting developing body fungus, and maracyn was listed as safe to use with maracide.

I posted about this last week because I didn't know what to do for treatment and this was the best I could come up on my own since the ich was progressing so quickly.

If the rainbows are sensitive to meds then I don't know what to do at this point because I would imagine the ich would get worse if I stop medicating. I don't want my fish to die, but nothing I read is consistent on what treatment is best for ich.

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5 Rainbowfish, 3 Blue Danios, 1 Bristlenose Pleco, 3 Peppered Corycats, 5 Dojo Loaches, 3 Black Kuhli Loaches.
Live plants and driftwood.

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