02-10-2010, 05:38 PM
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The tank they are in is the 29 gallon mentioned in my signature. They are with kribensis, swordtails and 1 chinese algae eater. I know it says 3 ottos. I thought I had three ottos and they were very big and aggressive, I then figured out that they were CAEs so I got rid of the other two.
-78 degrees farenheit
The tank is very well planted and established, it has been running well for over a year now. The fish were added very slowly and one species at a time, but the tiger barbs came all at the same time. The tiger barbs have been doing this ever since I got them about 2 months ago.
I feed them TetraMin tropical fish flakes. I have only been feeding them peas for the past month around, because otherwise any other food makes them float to the surface. They are almost completely vertical, nnose pointing down, struggling to swim downwards. the ones that have died, just got to exhausted and gave up, therefore floating to the top exposing their gills to the air.
I am recently doing 10-15% water changes per day, 1 per week being 25%. The water is crystal clear and all the other fish are thriving and breeding. I even have a 5" almost 6" male kribensis!!!
When they are not eating they are very active and friendly. Sometimes, when they are tired they kind of rest at a 45 degree angle, usually among the leaves of a plant, but as soon as I come to the tank they get excited and look for food. I don't thnk their resting is a bad thing I think it is natural because I have seen many tiger barbs doing this when they are just "chilling out".
I dont know what to do!
Please help :)
02-11-2010, 01:24 AM
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Also, how many kribensis and how many swordtails in the tank?
02-11-2010, 08:57 PM
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This doesn't really sound like swim bladder disease. If this was truly swim bladder disease this would be happening all the time, not coming and going depending on the type of food you're offering.
This sounds like a gas issue, and could be from the flake food... have you tried offering other foods such as brine shrimp, crisps, pellets, etc. or other brand names of flake food? That would be my first suggestion. Please know that too many peas in their diet can cause digestive tract issues and permanent damage, as tiger barbs are not heavy vegetarians and their bodies are not capable of handling large and constant amounts of roughage such as peas.
Peas will work as a laxative, which will clean out their systems and help to expel built up gas in the digestive tract, so once in a while isn't a bad thing... but I would be very careful not to give them too much or too often.
This also does not sound like anything that would be contagious to the other fish, or they would all be suffering with some symptom or other by now. The fact that only the tiger barbs are having issues tells me that the particular food you are using is causing that species of fish some heavy gas issues... nothing more. (Think of it as people eating beans) This could also just be a bad container of food (or old) and something in the composition of it is affecting the barbs.
Hope this helps, let me know if you need further assistance.
02-12-2010, 01:22 PM
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This is my career, if I didn't know these things I wouldn't have a job. I have 20+ yrs of education and training to go with my experience. There was a time when I didn't know these things either... but back then, instead of just guessing, I pursued learning. Guessing would have left me unemployed very quickly. Unfortunately, most people don't get the opportunities I have found over the years, so instead of seeking professional advice, they choose to guess.
Please understand that without the proper lab work and without the ability to examine these fish hands on, no diagnosis is a guarantee. All I can offer you is my education, training, and experience... which tells me that this is not swim bladder disease based on the symptoms and description you provided.
Swim bladder disease is not something that comes and goes, which is what gives it away. Swim bladder disease will cause permanent damage that cannot be fixed... so the symptoms would not stop according to the food being offered.
When you mention that the peas don't cause the same symptom, knowing that peas are a heavy laxative, and that there are many things that can cause gas to be trapped in the digestive tract & swim bladder, my best guess is that this food is simply not agreeing with them, for whatever the reason. I can further narrow it down because all fish of the same species are being affected, but not all fish that are eating the food.
Normally Tetramin is a great food with a high nutrition content, but fish food does have a shelf life. Without a broken seal, most (not all) flake foods have a shelf life of 6 months to a year. Once the seal is broken this shelf life decreases to a matter of months. Nutritional values change once the seal is broken, and the food, once exposed to air, changes in chemical breakddown.
In the future, any flake food that is opened beyond 3 months, should be replaced.
If you see the same symptoms reappear with the changes in diet/food that you are about to make, please let me know. While the help I can provide via internet is somewhat limited, there is still informatin we can gather to further narrow down the cause of this problem.
Hang in there, don't do anything drastic, and keep close eye on the fish as these changes progress. I will do what I can to help you save them.
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