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post #1 of 11 Old 11-19-2016, 12:29 PM Thread Starter
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Advice Needed on Treating Ich in Planted Tank

Hello everyone,

I added some dwarf neon rainbowfish to my 30 gallon approximately ten days ago and lo and behold some of them and my very old platy have developed ich in the last 36 hours. I have a small 2.5 gallon that I have used as a quarantine tank in the past (no I did not QT the new fish, I'm paying for that now) but I think it's too small for the rainbowfish. What should I do to treat the tank that won't involve me pulling all my plants out? I don't mind placing my snails in the QT tank to spare them copper toxicity. Supplies that I have on hand are heat (duh ), API Super Ick Cure, and table and kosher salt.

What should I do?


Here's my setup:
30 g tank
Fish:
7 Dwarf Neon Rainbowfish
6 Harlequin Rasboras
7 Glowlight Tetras
1 (elderly) Neon Tetra
2 (elderly) scissortail rasboras
1 (elderly) platy

Inverts:
3 nerite snails
Loads of unidentified snails that came in with plants

Plants:
Red Wendt's Crypt
Java fern
Anubias
An unidentified sword
A stem plant that may be parrotfeather

This tank has been running for 5 years.
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post #2 of 11 Old 11-19-2016, 04:15 PM
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My phone ate my last two attempts at a reply so I'll try to make this one short. I've used meds in a planted tank before with no I'll effects on plants or snails. Kordon's Rid ich plus and Seachem Paraguard are two I can think of, but most follow the same general ingredients list. Unless you have really rare plants, or feel like you'll have good luck with heat only, I'd just say medicate the main tank. 2.5 is too small to hold all those fish for weeks.

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post #3 of 11 Old 12-20-2016, 10:43 AM Thread Starter
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I'm late checking back. I did treat the tank with some of Kordon's Coppersafe. I pulled half the plants just in case and none of the plants that stayed in the tank were affected. I lost a total of four fish, so not too bad. Some of the old guys couldn't handle the temperature so I dropped it back down to about 78 F.

Thank you for your help!
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As per Dr. Richmond Loh (fish vet) he recommends formalin dosage 0.0125ml/L you can watch his videos in youtube
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post #5 of 11 Old 12-21-2016, 09:04 AM
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I know it is late but I have always treated Ich with heat and nothing else. Haven't had to worry about it often but it has worked fine 3 or 4 times.
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I know it is late but I have always treated Ich with heat and nothing else. Haven't had to worry about it often but it has worked fine 3 or 4 times.
I totally agree on using heat compared to using chemicals.
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post #7 of 11 Old 12-21-2016, 11:02 AM
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I treat new fish for ich with heat while In quarantine, whether they are showing spots or not. Even "cold" water fish. I haven't found a species that couldn't handle the heat. I'm guessing that plants may not fair as well - all the more reason to preemptively treat in quarantine. In my experience that and luck are the only ways to make sure you're fish don't come down with ich in the main tank.


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post #8 of 11 Old 12-21-2016, 11:08 AM
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I could be wrong it has been a while sense I read up on ich but it can't live more than 3 weeks without a host right? Well if you took the fish out and treated them and keep the planted tank empty of fish for 4-5 weeks it will clean out the ich right?

Someone with more knowledge of ich and correct me if I'm wrong.

But I agree with Jaysee quarantine is always the best option.


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post #9 of 11 Old 12-21-2016, 11:17 AM
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That's what I remember reading as well, that it can't survive that long without a host. So yes I agree that that strategy is supposed to work. How practical it is is another matter - not everyone has a quarantine tank, and even fewer people have the means to quarantine a fully stocked tank, as opposed to just new fish, or a partially stocked tank. In that situation maybe it's better to move the plants out and keep the fish in the show tank for treatment, reintroducing the plants after the 4-5 weeks you mention.


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post #10 of 11 Old 12-21-2016, 11:22 AM
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I agree few use quarantine tanks and yes if doing a large tank pulling the plants would be a good idea.

I'm not a expert on this because I don't deal with it often. I am very careful about getting new fish and what enters my fish room so I have limited experience.


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