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Old 09-18-2013, 08:13 PM   #11
 
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Carinotetraodon travancoricus
Family:*TetraodontidaeCommon
Names:*Dwarf Puffer
Origin and Habitat:*Endemic to the Kerala region of India and found in lakes and slow-moving rivers with plenty of submerged vegetation, leaf litter and sunken wood.*Compatibility/Temperament:*These fish are highly aggressive despite their size If adding tank mates one should use caution as they will nip the fins of slow moving fish.*Dwarf Puffer DietLive foods are best such as black worms, white worms, and snails. Frozen foods can be introduced and accepted such as Blood worms, Brine Shrimp, Mysis Shrimp, Daphnia, Tubifex Worms, Glass Worms (mosquito larva), and Krill. (Note: Brine Shrimp should not be use for more then a treat as they lack nutritional value.)*SizeMax size- 1 inch*Minimum Tank Suggestion5 gallons but preferably 10*Water parameters for Dwarf PufferWater chemistry is not a major issue and dwarf puffers adapt well to a broad range of conditions. Provided extremes are avoided. Ideal conditions would be around pH 7.5, 10dH for general maintenance, though somewhat softer conditions may be required for spawning. Temp should be 77 and 82 degrees F.*DescriptionA truly beautiful fish. Its one of the smallest Puffers to be found. Males will have a dark line that runs down their bellies ( This will darken will sexual maturity and during spawning times.) They will also have more of a yellow belly. Males will also have lines or wringles behind their eyes. Females do not have these traits and their bodys are generally more round then the males.Even though these fish are small just barely measuring an 1 inch they require tanks big enough to be able to accommondate their personalities and messy habits. These fish are very curious and the tank should be heavily planted and have lots of driftwood in the tank for them to explore. This also serves as a way to break up the line of sight when housing more then one puffer. If the tank is bare they will get bored very easy and start to tank surf (swimming up and down the glass). They will often learn that your presence means food and will come out to the front of the tank anytime you walk near it.General Rule when housing more then one puffer in the same tank is 1 puffer for the first 10 gallons and then 5 gallons per fish after that. In bigger tanks housing more then one puffer its best to have just one male. Having more then one male in the tank can result in fights and even death.Contributing MembersThe following members have contributed to this profile: Antagany, Boredomb
This is the profile for the Dwarf puffer. I rewrote the whole thing awhile back. Now Antagany had originally wrote it and i did leave some of what s/he had there but not much. I still don't mind that Antagany name is still there and as you can see both our names are still there even though this profile is posted under Byron's name in the reference area. This doesn't bother soo much as I contribute to it and that hasn't changed in the profile.

I can see where you are coming from 1077 but they had put the profiles on the forum. Where as before they were not. By doing this they had to have someone post them under a name. Do I agree with with name? Doesn't bother me to see TFK team as it is a little better then one persons make. Would I have done it this way if I was in charge? No, would ask members their opinion on the matter of how to post them and under what name since it has to be that way as some members did write them. Nonetheless nothing has changed as for who has the credit for writing them. That hasn't changed nor did the staff ever mean for it to.

I am sorry this is bothering you but just walking away from the problem at hand does nothing to solve it. Why not make suggestion on the matter and TFK staff why not in the future ask for opinions on such matters. Working together only makes the forum and its ppl stronger!
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Old 09-18-2013, 08:50 PM   #12
 
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As the original profiles were Byron's baby so were the new Reference Section profiles also to be Byron's baby. His area to design and rewrite and transfer over from the old section. Given free rein to set them up within the parameters of "threads" and "posts". Remember we needed to get the old profiles off that were "sticking out" so to speak. That is why we did not put it out to the forum members. It was Byron's to create.

The changes you will see over the next few weeks will be more sorting by common name. We need a "Google" or "Bing" type search of a common name to bring you to TFK... they don't work that way right now, we seem to be on page 4 ish... and we are moving forward with these changes with the guidance of our Admin.
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Old 09-18-2013, 09:07 PM   #13
 
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He was the Author of nearly all of the profiles, not merely contributer.Profiles now say,, BY TFK team.
That is my beef, Not many put in the work to present the material that now says..by TFK team .
He was far more than contributer with respect to fish profiles not withstanding those that I may have contributed to.
You all can put lipstick on a pig,,but it's still a pig.
1077, Byron was the one that used the 'TFK Team' account to change those profiles over from our old software add-on to here directly on the forum. It was his idea so that if members did contribute or write the first post, it wasn't looking as if Byron wrote it.
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Old 09-18-2013, 11:11 PM   #14
 
Guess I will come out of my cave for a minuet and say why don't you just treat each species profile like a thread? Thats what the vast majority of other sites have always done and it works well, they are part of the forum now anyway. Simply mod preview posts and that way no one has to complain about who wrote what and its posted under the users own name. Currently its impossible to tell who contributed what when there are multiple contributors. When it comes to personal experience thats fairly important. Being able to remove info from previous members is bad taste to me.

Honestly this site is bleeding experienced members and I've pretty much given up on waiting for changes that will never come. Its comforting to know that its more concerned about the google rank then things like taking 30 minuets to fix the broken stickies or a few minuets to remove/hide them so people can actually get help when they click them and not a blank page. Been broke for well over a month, been mentioned, still broke. Simply the site had and still has lots of problems and its too frustrating for some to deal with.

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I am sorry this is bothering you but just walking away from the problem at hand does nothing to solve it. Why not make suggestion on the matter and TFK staff why not in the future ask for opinions on such matters. Working together only makes the forum and its ppl stronger!
While this was and still is true. I tried and your experiences will vary, hopefully vary the opposite of mine. Still offer suggestions once in a blue moon just to contradict myself .
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Old 09-19-2013, 01:11 AM   #15
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Why don't you just treat each species profile like a thread? Thats what the vast majority of other sites have always done and it works well, they are part of the forum now anyway. Simply mod preview posts and that way no one has to complain about who wrote what and its posted under the users own name. Currently its impossible to tell who contributed what when there are multiple contributors.
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Old 09-19-2013, 04:10 PM   #16
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Not trying to push here, but has there been any headway on the reference team that the announcement said was forming? I figured it would be their job to fix the stickies and deal with profiles. I don't think I've heard any mention of them since, unless they are active already? Fixed stickies would be really nice. Just as one example, it gets tedious typing up the nitrogen cycle for seemingly every new member when I should just be able to drop a link.
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Old 09-19-2013, 06:08 PM   #17
 
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BWG brings up a good point here..... I've been curious about this matter, too. That announcement was made well over a month ago - almost two months now, and says that you had already created a reference team. So my question is why are they not handling these profiles? Was Byron the only reference team member?? I am not trying to sound rude, just been wondering...
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Old 09-19-2013, 06:22 PM   #18
 
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What they said...
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Old 09-19-2013, 07:10 PM   #19
 
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BWG brings up a good point here..... I've been curious about this matter, too. That announcement was made well over a month ago - almost two months now, and says that you had already created a reference team. So my question is why are they not handling these profiles? Was Byron the only reference team member?? I am not trying to sound rude, just been wondering...
No, you don't sound rude at all. I think it's a legitimate question and it's something we really need to get done.
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Old 09-19-2013, 08:22 PM   #20
 
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The reference Team is still very much on the cards, we already have a list of people who we will be asking shortly. If any of you have any suggestions, we would like to hear them as to potential people for the reference team.

There are various reasons that we do not want the profiles as threads, one being that irrelevant comments potentially harm the profiles for other people. Many people register to view them and other sections of the site but wont actually participate, this is something we are looking at also.

We are very open to suggestions that you have, many of the people who have posted here are very knowledgeable and we value your experience on the site, so please keep any suggestions coming.

Thanks everyone.
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