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post #11 of 18 Old 07-01-2013, 05:31 PM
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cause the search thing just does not work for me... I just get hundreds of threads (pages 1-25 of 500...) with the word "Cory" or "Tetra" in it and so I'm not doing it right!!!!
Sharon, you have to do an "advanced" search and then limit your search fields. Click the "search" down arrow in the blue header. Then in the "keywords" box type the fish name. Then down under Search Optinos, the box at the right, you scroll down to the profiles section and either highlight the specific folder ("characins" or whatever) or you can do the entire freshwater profiles, with "also seartch in child forums" checked which means you will search all sub-forums to that highlighted.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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post #12 of 18 Old 07-01-2013, 05:41 PM Thread Starter
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Yep, now that I figured out how to NOT search everything, I have to admit that it's working pretty well for me! I just dig down as specifically as I can based on the fish I'm looking for, the do a "Search this forum" and it actually includes all the child forums without special effort.

18 species/varieties of fish, 15 species/varieties of plants - The fish are finally ahead of the plants!
*560 gallons (2120 liters) in 5 tanks -> you do the math.
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post #13 of 18 Old 07-02-2013, 09:26 AM
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Sharon, you have to do an "advanced" search and then limit your search fields. Click the "search" down arrow in the blue header. Then in the "keywords" box type the fish name. Then down under Search Optinos, the box at the right, you scroll down to the profiles section and either highlight the specific folder ("characins" or whatever) or you can do the entire freshwater profiles, with "also seartch in child forums" checked which means you will search all sub-forums to that highlighted.
Doesn't work for me. Someone is gonna have to walk me thru it... Advanced Search... "Cory" or "Tetra" and then scroll down (bottom right area) to
"Freshwater Fish Profiles".... that's as far as I can go.... I do not know the scientific name.... and I get stuck on the Advanced Search page. I go NO where.

DKRST... I'll take a look at your post... at work right now....

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post #14 of 18 Old 07-02-2013, 01:02 PM
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Doesn't work for me. Someone is gonna have to walk me thru it... Advanced Search... "Cory" or "Tetra" and then scroll down (bottom right area) to
"Freshwater Fish Profiles".... that's as far as I can go.... I do not know the scientific name.... and I get stuck on the Advanced Search page. I go NO where.

DKRST... I'll take a look at your post... at work right now....
I led Sharon through the searching, and I think all's well now. At least, it works. B.
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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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post #15 of 18 Old 07-02-2013, 09:58 PM
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For the record if anyone else is having trouble... I have to request 2 x... the first request is a reject but if I ask for the search a 2nd time I get the list of Profiles.
Don't forget to click the "select child forum".... that means "sub forum". Thanks Byron for your help today!!

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post #16 of 18 Old 07-03-2013, 09:04 AM
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Before I can post to this thread I needed to learn up on TFK,
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Cathy’s homepage of tropical fish keeping.com first alexa reference
Order of visitors by first five countries: United States 55%, Australia 9%, United Kingdom 7%, India 6%, Indonesia 4%.
Order of upstream sites: Google.com 38.2%, Google.co.uk 10.2%, Yahoo.com 5%, Google.ca 2.6% and fishlore.com 2%

In light of these percentages an update / improvement of web site is needed especially fish profiles losing visitors because of lack of usability to search engines and other website will continue. It is generally thought that using scientific names for plants and livestock is in vogue but is this appropriate reasoning to send visitor away to other websites providing access via common names. Are we going to blindly follow other websites in the way information is presented … this penguin methodology will not advance or improve our standing but will drag us down.

I don’t understand why you all desire to make everything more complicated. I read your source code and have to say you all are not using all the possible features of XHTML 1.0.
Your xhtml pages are not verified / validated is the code flakey and not capable of meeting XHTML requirements. I have not looked at the CSS and the way it is used.

Byron in a post said there are software restriction to using both scientific names and common names. This I just don’t understand why not use java script’s mouseover to render both an image of the critter and provide the common name on a mouse roll over of the scientific name?? your admin or web developer can do it in a few minutes. Of course you could use css3 which is supported by most new browsers to bring common name visible on mouse over and then fade it to keep current rendering. There are many options which provide the page stickiness and increased usability.
Be creative folks in you efforts to develop a successful and usable fish profiles.
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Before I can post to this thread I needed to learn up on TFK,
Registrar: WILD WEST DOMAINS, LLC
Domain Servers
Name Server: NS1.VERTICALSCOPE.COM
Name Server: NS2.VERTICALSCOPE.COM
Name Server: NS3.VERTICALSCOPE.COM
Hosted Cheap Domain Registration, Domain Hosting Services –
Site first crawled May 8 1999 and the site has been crawled 481 times
Cathy’s homepage of tropical fish keeping.com first alexa reference
Order of visitors by first five countries: United States 55%, Australia 9%, United Kingdom 7%, India 6%, Indonesia 4%.
Order of upstream sites: Google.com 38.2%, Google.co.uk 10.2%, Yahoo.com 5%, Google.ca 2.6% and fishlore.com 2%

In light of these percentages an update / improvement of web site is needed especially fish profiles losing visitors because of lack of usability to search engines and other website will continue. It is generally thought that using scientific names for plants and livestock is in vogue but is this appropriate reasoning to send visitor away to other websites providing access via common names. Are we going to blindly follow other websites in the way information is presented … this penguin methodology will not advance or improve our standing but will drag us down.

I don’t understand why you all desire to make everything more complicated. I read your source code and have to say you all are not using all the possible features of XHTML 1.0.
Your xhtml pages are not verified / validated is the code flakey and not capable of meeting XHTML requirements. I have not looked at the CSS and the way it is used.

Byron in a post said there are software restriction to using both scientific names and common names. This I just don’t understand why not use java script’s mouseover to render both an image of the critter and provide the common name on a mouse roll over of the scientific name?? your admin or web developer can do it in a few minutes. Of course you could use css3 which is supported by most new browsers to bring common name visible on mouse over and then fade it to keep current rendering. There are many options which provide the page stickiness and increased usability.
Be creative folks in you efforts to develop a successful and usable fish profiles.
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Pop, I cannot answer most of this, I don't even know what you are talking about because I am not a computer/systems analyst. I've no idea what hardware/software the forum runs on. As I told you, please start a new thread in this section, confine it to the forum hardware/software, and the Admin will hopefully be able to comment.

[And, I moved your subsequent post about a slide show, to start its own new thread, as it was clear on that particular issue.]

Byron Hosking, BMus, MA
Vancouver, BC, Canada

The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian. [unknown source]

Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]

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post #18 of 18 Old 07-03-2013, 11:04 AM
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Hi Pop,

Thank you for your suggestions. I have passed along your suggestions to our tech team to review.
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