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This is a discussion on Pasfur's 180 FOWLR build within the Saltwater Journals forums, part of the Aquarium Photography category; --> Originally Posted by willow the tanks looking great,and i love the fish,they're so pretty. how come you decided to go with the clown tang ...

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Old 06-07-2009, 06:34 AM   #71
 
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the tanks looking great,and i love the fish,they're so pretty.
how come you decided to go with the clown tang knowing the risks ?
Before we move on, just for clarification, the last 4 posts are all related to my 180. I accidentally posted the pictures on this 58 thread. I am trying to have these posts moved to the appropriate thread.

To answer the question...

1) I think it is a beautiful fish.
2) Given their difficulty of care, I doubt that there are many people walking into that LFS who are more qualified to attempt to keep this fish. I have a great system, proper quarantine, and experienced eye.
3) I have a buddy who has a Clown Tang thriving in his 125 reef. The fish is currently 17 years old.
4) The fish was at the LFS for 4 weeks, and I have visited the fish every weekend during this time. I was able to observe its behavioral and physical changes over a long period of time. ( For the record, most fish which I purchase receive this level of scrutiny.)
5) It is an Acanthurus genus, which should mix into my existing livestock mix well.
6) The fish not only looks healthy, but it was aggressively going after food, not the least bit shy about feeding. (It ate for me only 1 hour after adding to my Q Tank.)
7. I may never have another opportunity to purchase such a healthy specimen of Clown Tang.
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Old 06-07-2009, 11:17 PM   #72
 
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Looking good and great purchase... that being said, why 3 clowns and a rabbit fish into a 58g? That's a bit small for so many tangs no? will you be moving them into the main reef eventually and i know that clown tang gets pretty big...
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Old 06-08-2009, 04:06 AM   #73
 
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i wish you every sucess i really do :)
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Old 06-08-2009, 09:01 AM   #74
 
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In reference to the pictures on your 58 build that are related to this thread:

I see in your sump you have your protein skimmer outlet and your overflow outlet srrounded by eggcrate material. What is the purpose/benefit if this? I am building a larger sump for my tank this week, and might incorporate something like that...

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Old 06-08-2009, 06:07 PM   #75
 
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Kells... sorry for the confusion. These pics are from my 180. I asked OF2F to move the posts to this thread, the correct one.

Bryce... The eggcrate is a temporary fix to a bad situation. My sump leaked, causing me to take quick action to replace it until a new one is built. Fortunately, I had a spare 20 gallon tank in the garage. Due to the lack of bubble traps in the 20 gallon, I used the egg crate to form basket for filter floss, removing bubbles from the input water. A sponge traps bubbles exiting from the skimmer. The result is no bubbles, despite the lack of baffles.

This is a bad design that was common in FOWLR tanks before reef tanks became the standard. In a reef, this design would be horrible because of the phosphate buildup it is likely to create. It the time comes that I decide to add some corals, then I will need to fix this situation. In a FOWLR, i'm not overly concerned.

At this point, I have almost commited with a FOWLR tank and no corals. I plan to add another 6 to 8 fish minimum, creating a total bioload that would not be ideal for a reef. There are just to many fish that I want, and my 58 reef is keeping me happy on the coral side.
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Old 06-09-2009, 09:10 AM   #76
 
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Thanks. I am currently getting bubbles in my display and think that my 15 gallon isn't deep enough for a bubble trap to be effective. I am switching over to a 20 tall (24" wide is the most I can fit under that 46 bow stand). I'm hoping that this will eliminate the bubble problem...

I thought that was a bubble diffuser, but I can't do filter floss or sponges.

Tank is looking great!
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Old 06-09-2009, 10:45 AM   #77
 
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Thanks. I am currently getting bubbles in my display and think that my 15 gallon isn't deep enough for a bubble trap to be effective. I am switching over to a 20 tall (24" wide is the most I can fit under that 46 bow stand). I'm hoping that this will eliminate the bubble problem...

I thought that was a bubble diffuser, but I can't do filter floss or sponges.

Tank is looking great!
when i had my 46, i had a 40 breeder sump





......time to build a new stand...
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Old 06-09-2009, 12:10 PM   #78
 
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when i had my 46, i had a 40 breeder sump





......time to build a new stand...

LOL. Wish I could easily move a full 46 gallon tank from one stand to another.

My next tank is reef ready with a custom stand.
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Old 06-10-2009, 06:26 AM   #79
 
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I thought that was a bubble diffuser, but I can't do filter floss or sponges.
True, but you can use live rock for a bubble diffuser, rather than filter floss. Live rock is effective at breaking up the bubbles and reducing their numbers.
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Old 06-10-2009, 12:27 PM   #80
 
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True, but you can use live rock for a bubble diffuser, rather than filter floss. Live rock is effective at breaking up the bubbles and reducing their numbers.
So you would still build the basket, and put the live rock in there? Or just put the LR in the first chamber?
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