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Old 04-05-2008, 09:52 PM   #1
 
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we also have a zebra snake eel but all he does is hide. Im tryin to catch him on video.
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Old 04-05-2008, 10:40 PM   #2
 
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Very pretty eel, but I noticed in the video that there was a lot of open space around the rock he was hiding in. Eels need many many rocks and caves in their tank so they can easily go from one to another without leaving themself exposed for more than a minute. You might want to consider adding more live rock and stacking it so he has more hiding places, especially if he's not the only eel in the tank. Not having enough hiding places causes extreme stress, which leads to illness.

How big of a tank is this?

BTW, chain links are known to be one of the more aggressive of the eels, and they are always hungry. Be careful, they have a nasty bite. The last one I got to take care of was about 32 inches long, and we fed him mice along with formula foods and live feeder fish. I have yet to meet an adult chain link moray that isn't super aggressive. A few of my coworkers took bites from that one... and all bled and all hurt real bad. It's also easy for an eel bite to get infected.
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Old 04-06-2008, 09:39 AM   #3
 
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Very pretty eel, but I noticed in the video that there was a lot of open space around the rock he was hiding in. Eels need many many rocks and caves in their tank so they can easily go from one to another without leaving themself exposed for more than a minute. You might want to consider adding more live rock and stacking it so he has more hiding places, especially if he's not the only eel in the tank. Not having enough hiding places causes extreme stress, which leads to illness.

How big of a tank is this?

BTW, chain links are known to be one of the more aggressive of the eels, and they are always hungry. Be careful, they have a nasty bite. The last one I got to take care of was about 32 inches long, and we fed him mice along with formula foods and live feeder fish. I have yet to meet an adult chain link moray that isn't super aggressive. A few of my coworkers took bites from that one... and all bled and all hurt real bad. It's also easy for an eel bite to get infected.
thanks for the heads up. he oes have a total different behavior than our lil black and white snake eel. this guy is into everything.
heres the tank. im assuming he has enugh spaces, hs just into everything like our bird wrasse. were also gonna pick up more rock either today or later this week. im wana start building some shelving but the flat rocks im looking for are so exspensive.
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Old 04-06-2008, 10:12 AM   #4
 
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I'm just curious... how long til you get a bigger tank? How big are you planning to go?
I'm not sure how long these animals have been in your 75, but they won't all be able to stay there for too long. Also, are the inverts in the tank live or fake? It's hard to tell in the video.
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Old 04-06-2008, 10:46 AM   #5
 
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I'm just curious... how long til you get a bigger tank? How big are you planning to go?
I'm not sure how long these animals have been in your 75, but they won't all be able to stay there for too long. Also, are the inverts in the tank live or fake? It's hard to tell in the video.
everything is real, live rock, live coral an live fish lol. its a 75 gallon tank and everything is doing well asie from our canylactis got sucked into the filter 2 nights ago but we fixe that issue yesterday. i have a 125 g that im working on setting up very soon. its all about funds at this point for that tank but this one has been running strong since january.
were not going to put anymore fish in this tank as of now. we came o the conclusion that we are going to use this tank for raising fish until they are too big then transfer them to the 120G where we will have a shark and maybe a stingray but im not thinking the sting ray is a good idea. thats the BF's bright idea lol
they all have their special lil homes in the 75 gallon tank where they go every night. and they are pretty interactive also so im assuming they are happy! the water params are still perfect. we get tested at least 2 times a week and do our weekly water changes. we had a nitrite issue at one point about 1 month ago so since then ive been totally on top of making sure that is monitored. and alls been good so far.
why do you think they wont stay here for too long?
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Old 04-06-2008, 12:08 PM   #6
 
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I'm just curious... how long til you get a bigger tank? How big are you planning to go?
I'm not sure how long these animals have been in your 75, but they won't all be able to stay there for too long. Also, are the inverts in the tank live or fake? It's hard to tell in the video.
everything is real, live rock, live coral an live fish lol. its a 75 gallon tank and everything is doing well asie from our canylactis got sucked into the filter 2 nights ago but we fixe that issue yesterday. i have a 125 g that im working on setting up very soon. its all about funds at this point for that tank but this one has been running strong since january.
were not going to put anymore fish in this tank as of now. we came o the conclusion that we are going to use this tank for raising fish until they are too big then transfer them to the 120G where we will have a shark and maybe a stingray but im not thinking the sting ray is a good idea. thats the BF's bright idea lol
they all have their special lil homes in the 75 gallon tank where they go every night. and they are pretty interactive also so im assuming they are happy! the water params are still perfect. we get tested at least 2 times a week and do our weekly water changes. we had a nitrite issue at one point about 1 month ago so since then ive been totally on top of making sure that is monitored. and alls been good so far.
why do you think they wont stay here for too long?
The reason for my concern is because of the size that some of those fish will attain as adults. I noticed a batfish in your tank... they grow very rapidly in good conditions and reach a length of about 20 inches. This fish by itself will need well over 300 gallons as an adult. The foxface is also going to get quite large... about 9.5 inches. Again, that fish will need a lot of space... a 125 would be ok for the foxface with a couple of other fish, but your total population with such a large fish is going to be very few.

Waste issues are not the only reason to be careful about stocking limits in a tank as the fish grow. Oxygen content in the water will also make a huge difference on survival rates. Saltwater is more dense than freshwater, and contains less oxygen content. Marine fish are suited to this environment provided they are not overcrowded. Territories also can become an issue as the fish grow. A 20 inch fish will need a lot of territory in order to be healthy and get along with tank mates. In case you're not aware, the foxface has venomous dorsal spines, so please be very careful not to crowd him or to come into direct contact with him. While not aggressive, if something were to spook him, he's likely to nail someone with his dorsal spines, which is a natural self defense for him. People can get severely sick from the venom in a foxface, and if they are allergic to it or have a weakened immune system for any reason, this could become life threatening.

I would strongly suggest against the addition of a sting ray. Again you are dealing with something that will grow very large very fast, and will need a tank bare of live rock to avoid injury. Saltwater sting rays are not an easy animal to keep/raise, and death rates are high. Their tail spikes are also venomous, so if you or another animal in the tank were to come into contact with it, scare it, etc... it could be lethal.

As for sharks, there are very few that are suitable for a home aquarium. Catsharks are about the only safe and suitable sharks for a home tank. Again you would need a very large tank mostly void of live rock to allow for swimming space, bottm area where they tend to spend most of their time, and animals they can't feed on. Most of what I saw in your tank would be a challenge or impossible to keep with a shark of any species.

3 months is not a very long time in the life of an aquarium where changes are happening constantly. I would really hate to see you lose anything, and being prepared for what they turn into is part of keeping them safe. Did your LFS not warn you about the foxface and the batfish? If they didn't, then shame on them!!
I don't wish to discourage you, just to keep you and your animals safe.
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Old 04-06-2008, 08:19 PM   #7
 
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I'm just curious... how long til you get a bigger tank? How big are you planning to go?
I'm not sure how long these animals have been in your 75, but they won't all be able to stay there for too long. Also, are the inverts in the tank live or fake? It's hard to tell in the video.
everything is real, live rock, live coral an live fish lol. its a 75 gallon tank and everything is doing well asie from our canylactis got sucked into the filter 2 nights ago but we fixe that issue yesterday. i have a 125 g that im working on setting up very soon. its all about funds at this point for that tank but this one has been running strong since january.
were not going to put anymore fish in this tank as of now. we came o the conclusion that we are going to use this tank for raising fish until they are too big then transfer them to the 120G where we will have a shark and maybe a stingray but im not thinking the sting ray is a good idea. thats the BF's bright idea lol
they all have their special lil homes in the 75 gallon tank where they go every night. and they are pretty interactive also so im assuming they are happy! the water params are still perfect. we get tested at least 2 times a week and do our weekly water changes. we had a nitrite issue at one point about 1 month ago so since then ive been totally on top of making sure that is monitored. and alls been good so far.
why do you think they wont stay here for too long?
The reason for my concern is because of the size that some of those fish will attain as adults. I noticed a batfish in your tank... they grow very rapidly in good conditions and reach a length of about 20 inches. This fish by itself will need well over 300 gallons as an adult. The foxface is also going to get quite large... about 9.5 inches. Again, that fish will need a lot of space... a 125 would be ok for the foxface with a couple of other fish, but your total population with such a large fish is going to be very few.

Waste issues are not the only reason to be careful about stocking limits in a tank as the fish grow. Oxygen content in the water will also make a huge difference on survival rates. Saltwater is more dense than freshwater, and contains less oxygen content. Marine fish are suited to this environment provided they are not overcrowded. Territories also can become an issue as the fish grow. A 20 inch fish will need a lot of territory in order to be healthy and get along with tank mates. In case you're not aware, the foxface has venomous dorsal spines, so please be very careful not to crowd him or to come into direct contact with him. While not aggressive, if something were to spook him, he's likely to nail someone with his dorsal spines, which is a natural self defense for him. People can get severely sick from the venom in a foxface, and if they are allergic to it or have a weakened immune system for any reason, this could become life threatening.

I would strongly suggest against the addition of a sting ray. Again you are dealing with something that will grow very large very fast, and will need a tank bare of live rock to avoid injury. Saltwater sting rays are not an easy animal to keep/raise, and death rates are high. Their tail spikes are also venomous, so if you or another animal in the tank were to come into contact with it, scare it, etc... it could be lethal.

As for sharks, there are very few that are suitable for a home aquarium. Catsharks are about the only safe and suitable sharks for a home tank. Again you would need a very large tank mostly void of live rock to allow for swimming space, bottm area where they tend to spend most of their time, and animals they can't feed on. Most of what I saw in your tank would be a challenge or impossible to keep with a shark of any species.

3 months is not a very long time in the life of an aquarium where changes are happening constantly. I would really hate to see you lose anything, and being prepared for what they turn into is part of keeping them safe. Did your LFS not warn you about the foxface and the batfish? If they didn't, then shame on them!!
I don't wish to discourage you, just to keep you and your animals safe.
yes we are aware of the foxface and are very careful around him. and we do plan on keeping the larger 125g tank a sand only tank with maybe a rock or 2 on one side for whatever needs its. i stated in another post that we have a huge LFS that is like a museum so if the case comes where any fish is too large for us.. we have a safe home to pass our fish on to! as of now.. everything has been well aside from losing our anenome to the filter basket
we were mostly warned about the wrass in our tank and the blue circle guy ( forgot his name) picking at our coral. but as said.. we are not looking for more fish for this tank. we got all we were looking for so that will be good on our wallets for a lil bit.
you cant see from the pic of my tank but there is a huge cave i built behind the rock wall where there are more lil caves for them to hide out. the foxface likes to hover in a big hole in the middle where he camoflages and blends in with the rock. pretty cool at night. the 2 eels have about 4 hiding spots each and the damsels all are in their same spots from when the first got introduced. ikept this all in mind while building the tank and its worked out so far.
as for the sting ray.. im totally with you on that note. ive been trying to get the idea out of my boyfriends head.
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Old 04-06-2008, 09:28 PM   #8
 
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Idea for the boyfriend... Take him to Chicago, Illinois to the Shedd Aquarium, take him downstairs to the shark reef and let him look at the sting rays... let him get a feel for how large they get and what they would require for care. Have him talk to one of the staff down there, they are full of useful information.

If worse comes to worse, simply tell him you refuse to contribute to the death of an innocent animal... because that's about what it would come to. Let him know that a responsible fish keeper doesn't do things like that. Even the experts have a difficult time keeing the rays... and for the home aquarium, there isn't one that will stay small enough to make it practical.

BTW, what's the name of your LFS? Where is it located? That sounds like a place I'd like to see, if I haven't already!
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Old 04-06-2008, 10:11 PM   #9
 
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Idea for the boyfriend... Take him to Chicago, Illinois to the Shedd Aquarium, take him downstairs to the shark reef and let him look at the sting rays... let him get a feel for how large they get and what they would require for care. Have him talk to one of the staff down there, they are full of useful information.

If worse comes to worse, simply tell him you refuse to contribute to the death of an innocent animal... because that's about what it would come to. Let him know that a responsible fish keeper doesn't do things like that. Even the experts have a difficult time keeing the rays... and for the home aquarium, there isn't one that will stay small enough to make it practical.

BTW, what's the name of your LFS? Where is it located? That sounds like a place I'd like to see, if I haven't already!
thats funny you say that cus we just went to the miami sea aquarium today!
what water params do i need for one of these? lol

just joking
but the LFS is in tamarac, Fl called Big Al's. awesome place heres their link http://www.bigalsonline.com/
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Old 04-06-2008, 10:13 PM   #10
 
i just looked at the site and surprisingly they dont have pics of the actual store.. ill take some when i go this week! it really is amazing!
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