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post #21 of 147 Old 06-27-2010, 07:59 PM Thread Starter
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actually i looked around a LOT and saw what others were using in there setups and finally decided what i wanted mine to do and set it up that way.... check out our DIY section first and then hit google or youtube for more ideas.... basic explination for my set up is as follows...
overflow from tank
through wall to first chamber
over baffle into fuge with ruble ATM (more to be added here later)
through a three baffle bubble trap to the return section
return pump back through wall to tank

main safety features i included
3x tubes in over flow to limit air lock and failure
return line "T' back to first chamber to control flow with out buring out the pump
siphon break hole in return line so that DT can not overflow Sump

you can see most of this in the pix if you want better ones let me know and i will post them...

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post #22 of 147 Old 06-28-2010, 08:50 AM
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i suggest taking the live rock out of the sump and putting it into the display. you may want to leave 2 and prob. at most 3 pieces in the sump. i would personally put a deep sand bed in the refuge area and a nice clump of chaeto algae with a clamp light on a reverse light cycle as the tank. every other week take 1 of those 3 rocks and swap it with one in your tank ( one that doesnt have corals that will die down in the sump ) ]
doing this is bringing good pod population into the display but by rotating rocks every other week it allows for them to still thrive. just something i did and suggest doing becuase personally i feel a bunch of rock jam'd into a sump is just the same as having it full of bioballs.
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post #23 of 147 Old 06-28-2010, 12:24 PM Thread Starter
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i hear you.. i will eventually get the sand and algae .. for now i only have a little LR in there and its more of a breeding ground for pods to get washed into the display.. its not a ton of rock and the water moves through all the time... i have looked at other set ups with this and they seem to thrive well... light for the fuge is coming soon (mentioned in other thread)

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post #24 of 147 Old 06-28-2010, 07:40 PM Thread Starter
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sooooo i am indeed in for another diatom bloom.. all the rock is getting that lovely rust color and some of the rock that made it through it all has much of its green or purple algae showing up quite nicely.. i am very happy with the new set up and the continuing plan of LIA (Leave It Alone!!!) LOL.... pods are making a great comeback as well in the sump and the DT..... thought about the back ground and if i can not find a great color i think i will just wait for the coreline (read some cool ways to promote its growth with out additive) to cover the back....

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post #25 of 147 Old 07-01-2010, 08:09 PM Thread Starter
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moving right along for those not reading the other thread.... finally have a stable PH bloom is almost over and the pods are making a remarkable come back!!! now have the light on the refugium and it stays on constant.... got my SG back to a good safe number and things are looking great!!! i have randomly done three power out tests for varying times (5 min, 25 min, 2 hours) and have had no start up issues at all.....
moved a great deal of the LR out of the Sump and in to the DT and it looks better... tests were all in good range however i was dumb enough to lose the readings before recording them in my log... will be re testing tomorrow...
so now that things are getting on the up and up i guess i can start to turn my thoughts to stocking this wonderful tank... i think i am going to stay with the full reef idea and do corals and fish.... i love the look of the corals and love the movement of the fish.... not sure what i want just yet but i have lots of time, besides i will not be the only contributor. i have decided that i will pick a list of creatures that will do well together and have various people we consider family (some raelly are) pick out what they like ad go to purches with me.. each creature will have a 30 grace period (for QT) then that person will name it or it will be gien their name...
i think this will add an even more adventurous element to watching this tank come together....

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post #26 of 147 Old 07-03-2010, 09:02 PM Thread Starter
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ok so last nights readings
PH- 8.3
KH- 8 (bordering on low i believe)
Cal- 420ppm
NO2 <0.3mg/l
NO3- 0

i think i got it LOL
the purple is starting to spread all over my rock!!!!!!!!! oh yeah we have progress
i may be buying the Kent part A+B next week to have on hand for when i start putting in stock that will be depleating these.... perhaps some macro algae and then waiting a little longer for the first of my stock... not sure what i am going to be heading for yet but i have a few ideas...

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post #27 of 147 Old 07-03-2010, 09:48 PM
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Looks real good.
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post #28 of 147 Old 07-04-2010, 11:05 PM Thread Starter
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ok not really sure who's thread i was reading a while back but i recall a member stated that they tried red light for night viewing and it looked wrong to them (demonic i think was the term)... well me being me said i would try it...
1) great night viewing
2) many critters i did not realize made it through the crash and upgrade are easy to see
3) yes demonic is a great description
4) I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!! so tomorrow evening i will do pic and share them man this is so cool......
with all my readings in a good zone and stable
with my pods exploding all over the place and the rusty diatom turning over to wonderful greens and purples all over my tank i am getting the excitement back that i had in the first place
do not get me wrong i have learned a great deal about caution and patience
but now i have the spark back for my tank that was missing after all my live stock died off.....

so final equipment at this point
a cover.... thats it just a cover

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post #29 of 147 Old 07-05-2010, 01:17 AM
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LOL *cough* My son said demonic. He thinks his fish are evil lol. We stuck with it though and it has grown on him. I'm fond of the green cause it reminds me of NVG's Which by the way, if you ever get the chance. Watch your fish for a while with those on. At least now I know they don't play poker when they think we're not around.
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post #30 of 147 Old 07-05-2010, 02:37 PM
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Glad your tank is progressing nicely again.Like I said before this has been great to follow.A lesson to everyone not to give up.Just learn,gain more experience, and keep going.

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