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post #11 of 14 Old 01-23-2009, 06:56 AM
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Just about everything on that list will eat the cleaning crew.

Here is something most people don't realize. When you think about waste, most FW hobbyists have this picture of large chunks floating about. You really don't get this in saltwater. You do get some solid waste, but the large large majority of waste excreted by the fish is in liquid form. It is nothing like FW, where you see fish swimming about with long strands of waste about to be released.

The other issue is that saltwater is very dense. Most waste floats and is easily removed by mechanical filtration. You have absolutely no concerns not having a clean up crew in a fish only aquaruim. In fact, you would be better to NOT have a clean up crew, due to their sensitivity to medications (if needed in the future).

On the subject of feeding. Diet is one of the most overlooked aspects of the marine hobby. It is CRITICAL that you match the dietary needs of your fish correctly. Freshwater fish are not easily digested by marine predators and are not a healthy diet. They should almost never be used. You want to feed foods prepared for large marine fish. There are many frozen foods and dried foods which fit this need.

It is also very important to give a huge variety to your Angelfish. I would feed Angel Formula, Formula One, Formula Two, and Garlic pellets as part of my rotation. I would also include FROZEN Krill, Silversides, and Brine Shrimp. ( I am fearful of Freeze Dried Krill and would suggest you avoid it.)

Your Lion Fish can be tamed onto dried foods with just a little effort. You want to use a manmade feeding stick and silversides to entice the Lionfish to eat. It may take 5 to 7 days of trying this technique, but the always get hungry and always give in. After a few weeks they will eat flake food if you want.
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post #12 of 14 Old 01-23-2009, 08:06 AM
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You have absolutely no concerns not having a clean up crew in a fish only aquaruim. In fact, you would be better to NOT have a clean up crew, due to their sensitivity to medications (if needed in the future).
i agree with everything but this, dosing meds in the tank will leech into the live rock and/or silicone seal of the perfectly fine 180 tank. if you do this the tank/rock will basically be shot for becoming a reef tank.

your best bet is to remove the sick fish to a hospital tank and medicate there.
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i agree with everything but this, dosing meds in the tank will leech into the live rock and/or silicone seal of the perfectly fine 180 tank. if you do this the tank/rock will basically be shot for becoming a reef tank.

your best bet is to remove the sick fish to a hospital tank and medicate there.
I agree with this point. Worth noting. If you have any interest long term in doing a reef tank, then you would want to keep certain considerations in mind. There are a TON of concerns that you should be aware of from day one.

For the record... silicone? OF2F... how high do you consider this risk? It would make the idea of buying a used aquarium a considerable risk.

In any case, you would have several treatment options available in a FOWLR that are not available in a reef. Most important, raising the temperature and lowering the salinity, both of which have little long term impact on live rock. However, these are certainly not "medications". Touche!
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well ive been told copper based meds leach into the seal and make it hard if not impossible keeping inverts.
ive always bought used tanks and havnt had a problem, maybe i was lucky, maybe its just a precaution thing.

anyways if i was setting up a new tank that was a 40 breeder or something along those lines i would prob. buy a new one anyways. the glass wouldnt be scratched and you wouldnt have to worry about this issue. A 40 breeder new would be one of the cheaper things on the list for building a reef tank
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