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post #41 of 48 Old 01-14-2009, 08:35 PM
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Ok, are you doing reef or FOWLR?

dry sand - Yep. 10 to 20lbs is good if you just want it for looks as I do. 3-4" is better to acheive a DSB.
not sure about lighting yet, how much do i need? - All depends.
heater and filter - 50W heater. Filter is not needed. You need powerheads with water changes. Your LR is your main filtration.
fake plants - EEEEEEWWWWW!!! Not needed at all.
caves and hiding places - See above. LR provides all of this.
10-15 pounds of live rock - More like 20-40lbs for idea filtration.
1 neon goby - Good.
2 percula clownfish - Good.
Flower Anemone - If you can find one. They are *extremely* hard to come by in LFS's. I got mine as a hitchiker, and love it.
royal grandma - Gramma, not Grandma. Lol.

If it was me, I would add fish like this:
-Wait 1-2 months for cycle.
-Right after, CUC. Gradual increase of that over 1.5 months.
-Corals, if you will get some.
-Fish at at least 3-4 months. I would get either the Neon or the Clowns first.
-Third fish at month 8, if everything is fine.
-Fourth fish at a year, if everything is fine.
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Ok, are you doing reef or FOWLR?

dry sand - Yep. 10 to 20lbs is good if you just want it for looks as I do. 3-4" is better to acheive a DSB.
not sure about lighting yet, how much do i need? - All depends.
heater and filter - 50W heater. Filter is not needed. You need powerheads with water changes. Your LR is your main filtration.
fake plants - EEEEEEWWWWW!!! Not needed at all.
caves and hiding places - See above. LR provides all of this.
10-15 pounds of live rock - More like 20-40lbs for idea filtration.
1 neon goby - Good.
2 percula clownfish - Good.
Flower Anemone - If you can find one. They are *extremely* hard to come by in LFS's. I got mine as a hitchiker, and love it.
royal grandma - Gramma, not Grandma. Lol.

If it was me, I would add fish like this:
-Wait 1-2 months for cycle.
-Right after, CUC. Gradual increase of that over 1.5 months.
-Corals, if you will get some.
-Fish at at least 3-4 months. I would get either the Neon or the Clowns first.
-Third fish at month 8, if everything is fine.
-Fourth fish at a year, if everything is fine.
lol.... errrr sorr about that! I feel like a huge retard! Thanks for the advice, I think I'll get the clowns first, then neon, then gramma.... is it bad if I use a filter and live rocks?

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post #43 of 48 Old 01-14-2009, 09:02 PM
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It isn't really bad. It just isn't needed, and can make your tank worse. Unless you make a HOB into a fuge, then don't do it. Bio-wheels and the like are nitrate factories, and sponges need to be changed/rinsed daily if you do that. Two powerheads, LR and LS is all your filtration along with weekly water changes.
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post #44 of 48 Old 01-14-2009, 09:17 PM Thread Starter
ok, thanks 4 all ur help!!!

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post #45 of 48 Old 01-15-2009, 05:52 PM
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10-15 pounds of live rock - More like 20-40lbs for idea filtration.
Remember folks, pounds is a unit of measure determined by mass. The density of the rock you select does not correlate with the quality of rock and its ability to serve as a biofilter.

If you are buying Fiji rock, for example, you will probably only need 1/2 pound per gallon, because the pieces of rock are much larger, more porous, and less dense.

However, if you are buying from the Caribbean, then you probably want 2 pounds per gallon, because the rock is very dense.

So, lets change the future of this hobby. Lets change this tried and wrong rule of thumb. Lets talk about proper water flow and structure of our live rock display. Lets talk about the quality of our live rock selection. Lets say something meaningful and helpful, rather than dumb down our answers for the newby.

Sorry Cody. Not a personal attack buddy. This is just one of my old pet pieves and I had a horrible day at work. (After a horrible day this is a nice place to relax.)
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post #46 of 48 Old 01-15-2009, 11:35 PM
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That's an interesting premis Pasfur... i like it. Perhaps you could vent this pet peve in a Thread about LR and where to get and not to get it from start as well as density and potential preditors that may come with the LR as well as a removal of certan(of course not all) pests that are common. That would be extremly benifecial and i know nothing about this area, so it'll be a good thing for you to do for even the more experianced hobbiest.

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post #47 of 48 Old 01-16-2009, 05:46 AM
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I'll put something together on that Kells. It would benefit me as well as I search for a vendor to purchase my live rock from later this year.
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post #48 of 48 Old 01-17-2009, 09:47 AM Thread Starter
Thanks guys!

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