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Old 01-14-2009, 08:01 AM   #31
 
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I didn't say it was great advice... JK JK.. i know if you go to Petco, they have 20g long there for sell at $25-$35. It's just the tank. Then you can get a stand or build one for cheep too. Also get the filtration going and it not be a hang on or canister filter, and nothing with bio-balls and you've got a tank... (don't forget the powerheads).

I was just suggesting the AIO as a quick start...
Sounds good, but I NEED a lid nomatter what, I have a little brother, a 95 pound dog, and a cat who will eat all this fish in a day! Does the petco one come with a lid???
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Old 01-14-2009, 08:03 AM   #32
 
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i personally would prefer seeing a hood with fan ports then a glass lid or for an AIO's sake, a plastic one.
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Old 01-14-2009, 05:53 PM   #33
 
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Sounds good, but I NEED a lid nomatter what, I have a little brother, a 95 pound dog, and a cat who will eat all this fish in a day! Does the petco one come with a lid???
There are a few main ways to do this.

1) Buy a glass top. Most common. Slows down Evaporation but increases heat. That is a problem in a small tank (which I experienced).
2) Screen Top. Heat stays out, but you have more evap. Blocks more light as well.
3) Eggcrate. Same as above.
4) A wood canopy, like onefish mentioned.

I have used 1, 2, and 4. A canopy is by far the best, with no glass/screen top for easy access. Topping off is easy too, so evap isn't a problem.
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Old 01-14-2009, 06:40 PM   #34
 
Thanks guys! Ok, so I have a long list of fish and inverts that I would like...there are 2 kinds that I REALLY want!! So anyway I know that some of these guys are too big for a 20 gallon, or unfit for a begginer, but I just want your oppinion on a tank setup with maybe 2 or three of these guys! Thanks!!
Yellow Tang
Striped sailfin tiger
Spotted Cardinal
Scooter Blenny
Mandarinfish
LOngnosed Hawk
LEMON GOBY I want one REALLY BAD!!!!
orange spotted coby
black cap Gramma
big eye squirrel fish
cleaner wrasse
Dragon Wrasse
firefish
yellow headed jaw
Yellow Sweet lips
African Pygmy Angel
LemonPeel Angel
COMMON/ PERCULA CLOWN!!!!! I WANT ONE REALLY BADLY!!!!
Blue Chromis
orange sea perch
sharp nosed puffer
Cleaner Shrimp
orange starfish

OK, thats my list, I know its really long..... sorry, there are sooo many I like. Ok, so first off I am going to say I would like to have 1 or 2 clownfish, and a Lemon goby. will anything I listed get along with them??? THANKS!!!
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Old 01-14-2009, 07:10 PM   #35
 
A lot of these names I am unfamiliar with... maybe because of spelling or because I just don't know.

Yellow Tang - Nope.
Striped sailfin tiger -Trigger? Nope.
Spotted Cardinal - Pajama? Should work, but will only accept frozen/live foods.
Scooter Blenny - If you wait for your tank to mature for 1 year and find one that actually eats prepared food. Only some will take frozen, and I have never seen one take dry.
Mandarinfish - Same as above, but harder to keep.
LOngnosed Hawk - I wouldn't do it in a 20.
LEMON GOBY - Lemon Goby? Like the really really rare thing, or a Clown Goby?
orange spotted coby - They are one of the larger gobies, and wont be good in a 20 long term. Look up Yellow Watchman if you like that look.
black cap Gramma - Blackcap Basslet? Should work, but they are very shy.
big eye squirrel fish - No idea, but Squirrelfish (I think) should not go in a 20G.
cleaner wrasse - Maybe.
Dragon Wrasse - Not at all.
firefish - One can work
yellow headed jaw - Either have a DSB or make a PVC burrow, and it works.
Yellow Sweet lips - What?
African Pygmy Angel - Not sure, but many pygmy angels are not reef safe at all.
LemonPeel Angel - Nope.
COMMON/ PERCULA CLOWN - There is no common clown. You can have Percula or Ocellaris.
Blue Chromis - One may work.
orange sea perch - No idea.
sharp nosed puffer - Nope.
Cleaner Shrimp - Yep.
orange starfish - Red Reef star?

You can have 1-4 (or 5, but not recommended) depending on your WC schedule, your bioload, your LR/LS lbs, your skimmer, etc.
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Old 01-14-2009, 07:26 PM   #36
 
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2087/...763b08.jpg?v=0 this type of lemon goby..... i didn't think they r rare
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Old 01-14-2009, 07:27 PM   #37
 
That is a Citron Clown Goby. They should work out, if the one you get eats. Make sure you see it eat if you purchase it.
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Old 01-14-2009, 07:44 PM   #38
 
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That is a Citron Clown Goby. They should work out, if the one you get eats. Make sure you see it eat if you purchase it.
ok, i didn't know they were picky eaters...... Idk if I should get them if thats the case. What fish & inverts would you reccomend with 2 clownfish in a 20g?
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Old 01-14-2009, 07:50 PM   #39
 
Inverts: Run-of-the-mill CUC. 1 Shrimp of your choice. Maybe a Flower Anemone if you feed it and if you can find one.

Fish:
-1 Firefish
-1 Shrimp Goby of some sort
-1 or a pair of Nano Gobies of some sort
-1 Blackcap Basslet
-1 Royal Gramma

From your list. Not all of this, though. One, or maybe two if your tank has matured.
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Old 01-14-2009, 08:07 PM   #40
 
ok, how is this for a 20g tank setup?
dry sand
not sure about lighting yet, how much do i need?
heater and filter
fake plants
caves and hiding places
10-15 pounds of live rock
1 neon goby
2 percula clownfish
Flower Anemone
royal grandma what do you think?? ok?
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