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post #11 of 27 Old 01-08-2009, 03:51 PM Thread Starter
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Sorry I did miss this. Well right now I have a Marineland 400 Bio wheel hang on filters with no sump or protein skimmer, but I am looking for a skimmer as we speak. I have had really good water quality, but never had so many fish before. My water parameters last night showed:

Salinity 1.021
PH 8.1
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 20 ppm
Ammonia 0

I plan on testing every other day just to make sure nothing changes.

Also I have live sand and 30 lbs live rock.

With just the basic light hood that came with the aquarium.
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post #12 of 27 Old 01-08-2009, 03:55 PM
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if you can read reviews on skimmers i would, alot are great and alot are a waste of time and money
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post #13 of 27 Old 01-08-2009, 04:05 PM Thread Starter
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Well I plan on upgrading to a 180 gallon tank within the next year so I want to make sure I only need to buy it once. At this time I have been researching sumps and the different ways to build them and I feel like I'm on information over load from all I've read lately about them. So any ideas for a good one would be appricated.
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I don't favor the bio-wheels, but it sounds like you have everything under control. Your nitrates are a little high, but other then that, looks good.

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post #16 of 27 Old 01-08-2009, 06:09 PM
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I think you have a very high risk situation, with no skimmer and very little carbon. Any toxin released into the system, which could occur at any moment with the territorial nature of your fish selections, could provide a total wipeout.

I would personally suggest that you begin to use large amounts of carbon immediately. This could be accomplished a number of ways, as you are familiar with i am sure.

I would avoid the purchase of a skimmer until you upgrade in tank size. You want to save every dollar possible to purchase the best quality skimmer available for your 180, especially with the bioload you will have as these fish grow.
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post #17 of 27 Old 01-09-2009, 09:22 AM Thread Starter
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Pasfur, WOW total wipeout! Thats what I was thinking but hoping wouldn't be the case. I would just be devistated if that happened. I am going to call my LFS and see if they can take him back. I just cant risk everything! Way to much time and love invested in my tank. Thanks for your opinions.
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wow, when i first starting reading your post i thought it already happened!!!

whew, but not to take credit from pasfur i suggested running carbon back on page 1.

hope you can catch this sucker with the live rock work without stressing him to much.
unless he is still in QT.
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wow, when i first starting reading your post i thought it already happened!!!

whew, but not to take credit from pasfur i suggested running carbon back on page 1.

hope you can catch this sucker with the live rock work without stressing him to much.
unless he is still in QT.
Lol, after reading my post again, I can see where it sounded that way, sorry.

I just got off the phone with my LFS and the guy there (Bill) has always been a treasured resource to me. I knew right away that he was not the one who sold my husband the soapfish the other night, because he definitely would have made sure he was aware of the risks, I'm sure. Anywho, when I talked to him about my situation he said, that in the twenty years he has had his business he has never seen any knid of trouble with these fish. He said while they can secrete toxins when provoked, it would take a predator fish really making him feel very threatened. He told me that he felt very confident that this fish would do fine in my tank with the fish I have, especially since I would be upgrading soon, because he is so small now, that in a 55 gallon tank it would not be a high risk.

I really have always trusted Bill, but never had to trust him with the survival of my entire tank. So now I do feel somewhat better but still very guarded. I will definitely add extra carbon and I guess this will light my fire about getting the larger tank started sooner.

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Oh and onefish2fish thanks for the link about understanding sumps! Hands down the best and most helpful article I have read about sumps. He really breaks it down so its very easy to understand.

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post #20 of 27 Old 01-09-2009, 06:00 PM
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lol i was kidding when i said i told you about the carbon first, who cares who told you and when they told you as long as the point gets across right?
i must say i do NOT have experience with the soapfish but i would imagine running carbon will only benefit the tank in removing organics. to be extra safe you may want to have a batch of salt water made up, ready to go incase you do see something off. i prob. would do this before adding him to the display esp. (unless already done) because the move into a new tank may just be enough stress. again i dont have experience with this fish but that sounds logical to me.

i think a larger tank will greatly increase the health of these animals. without skimming back you have a tang right? they need alot of swimming room and a 55 doesnt cut it. a larger tank will also mean more stable water params esp. when adding a sump. glad the sump link helped.
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