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Old 09-29-2011, 10:29 PM   #11
 
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Thanks, Pasfur! Before I get to stocking patterns, I first have to figure out which fish I want. Iím working on that and I really like both angels and tangs. I have read you can only have one of each, but Iím confused as to whether that means only one tang or only one tang from the same ďfamilyĒ.

For example, can I have both a Blue Tang (from the Acanthurus family) and a Yellow Tang (Zebrasoma), even though I then couldnít put a Purple Tang (another Zebrasoma) in the mix? Or can I just have one and only one Tang in the tank? If Iím down to one and only one Tang, itís going to be a tough decision!

As for angels, I really love the dwarf angels, especially the Flame Angelfish and the Coral Beauty, but I think Iím going to have to pick between these two. I also really like the Queen Angel, and I think the Queen would get along with either the Flame or the Coral Beauty. Correct?
You can keep those Tangs you suggested. Its the one only of the same type you can't do, unless in a huge system, as in, one Purple, one Blue, one Yellow. The Angels are the same way, only one of the same Family. A Queen and a Emperor are Angels of different families. But, I am not sure about the Pygmy Angels and the Queen Angel getting along.
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Old 09-30-2011, 09:57 PM   #12
 
Thanks, Reefing Madness! I'm happy to hear I can have more than 1 Tang.

I have read in a few places that you can put one of the larger angels (such as a Queen) with a dwarf angel. Anyone here able to confirm that?

I had also read you couldn't put two dwarf angels together, although in looking through some of the stocking lists of members on this Forum, I've seen a couple of people who seem to keep a Flame Angel and a Coral Beauty in the same tank. Anyone know if that's possible/advisable?

I'm still working on my list, although I'm in no rush, since I'm not going to put any more fish in my tank until I resolve my issues with heat (which I posted about in another thread).
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Old 10-01-2011, 11:20 AM   #13
 
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Thanks, Reefing Madness! I'm happy to hear I can have more than 1 Tang.

I have read in a few places that you can put one of the larger angels (such as a Queen) with a dwarf angel. Anyone here able to confirm that?

I had also read you couldn't put two dwarf angels together, although in looking through some of the stocking lists of members on this Forum, I've seen a couple of people who seem to keep a Flame Angel and a Coral Beauty in the same tank. Anyone know if that's possible/advisable?

I'm still working on my list, although I'm in no rush, since I'm not going to put any more fish in my tank until I resolve my issues with heat (which I posted about in another thread).
The dwarf Angels are of the same family, its not advisable. Some do keep them, they end up with calmer fish, you could try, but...Well you know. They may get along, they may not. Heat? Water getting hot? Install fans on the backside of the tank. CPU fans.
Example, I have 4 fans on mine blowing across the water sruface, my temp is 79, in AZ, room temp is 83 home, and 87 when not home, tank stays stable.
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Old 10-01-2011, 04:57 PM   #14
 
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The dwarf Angels are of the same family, its not advisable. Some do keep them, they end up with calmer fish, you could try, but...Well you know. They may get along, they may not. Heat? Water getting hot? Install fans on the backside of the tank. CPU fans.
Example, I have 4 fans on mine blowing across the water sruface, my temp is 79, in AZ, room temp is 83 home, and 87 when not home, tank stays stable.
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In that case, I think I will need to choose between the Flame Angel and the Coral Beauty, in order to stay on the safe side.

As for the heat, I'm the same person who posted in the other forum re a heat problem (you responded). Your situation makes sense -- air temps of 83 and water temps of 79. I'm in Toronto, and we're not exactly known for our heat! The outside temp is below 60 here. I'm keeping my room temp at only 65 (wearing lots of sweaters), leaving the lids off the tank to allow evaporation, using the lights sparingly and, by doing all that, the tank stays at 79.
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Old 10-02-2011, 11:17 AM   #15
 
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In that case, I think I will need to choose between the Flame Angel and the Coral Beauty, in order to stay on the safe side.

As for the heat, I'm the same person who posted in the other forum re a heat problem (you responded). Your situation makes sense -- air temps of 83 and water temps of 79. I'm in Toronto, and we're not exactly known for our heat! The outside temp is below 60 here. I'm keeping my room temp at only 65 (wearing lots of sweaters), leaving the lids off the tank to allow evaporation, using the lights sparingly and, by doing all that, the tank stays at 79.
Whew, glad I was close then. I was reading your issue and for the life of me could not figure out what pump you could be using that would heat your tank that much, you had me worried. Glad it came together.
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Old 10-03-2011, 05:58 PM   #16
 
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Thanks, Pasfur! Before I get to stocking patterns, I first have to figure out which fish I want. I’m working on that and I really like both angels and tangs. I have read you can only have one of each, but I’m confused as to whether that means only one tang or only one tang from the same “family”.

For example, can I have both a Blue Tang (from the Acanthurus family) and a Yellow Tang (Zebrasoma), even though I then couldn’t put a Purple Tang (another Zebrasoma) in the mix? Or can I just have one and only one Tang in the tank? If I’m down to one and only one Tang, it’s going to be a tough decision!

As for angels, I really love the dwarf angels, especially the Flame Angelfish and the Coral Beauty, but I think I’m going to have to pick between these two. I also really like the Queen Angel, and I think the Queen would get along with either the Flame or the Coral Beauty. Correct?
There is a lot of 2nd hand information floating around on the internet (at best 2nd hand!). Most people have only kept 2 or 3 tanks in their marine fishkeeping lifetime, and have limited experience to pull from, so this isn't surprising. I will tell you that my personal experience with these 2 families is somewhat different that the "rule".

I personally have a 180 gallon tank. (link below) My tank has the following Tangs:
Yellow, Scopas, Sailfin, Clown, and Tomini. I used to have a Lipstick, but eventually removed it due to the sheer size the fish had attained. (guilt on my part) I very rarely, if ever, see any aggression between my Tangs, other than normal jockeying at feeding time. I would suggest adding the most passive genus first, which is the Ctenochaetus, then progressing to the Zebrasoma, and finally the Acanthurus. The Naso species can be added very early, or later if they are of considerable size. I would also suggest adding all members of the same genus at the same time, ESPECIALLY if you want to keep multiple Zebrasoma or Acanthurus.

Your Angels don't mix as easily, but you can keep pairs of the Centropyge species together VERY happily. It is somewhat unpredictable to keep different Centropyge species together, even in 6' tanks. You can keep a Centropyge in a tank with a large Angelfish, with the large Angel not posing a threat. In fact, it is much more likely that the Zebrasoma or Acanthurus species of Tang will cause problems for a Centropyge Angelfish. I personally do not keep a Centropyge in my 180 with my Tangs, for this very reason. I do, however, have a Majestic Angel which has mixed well.

As for mixing Large Angelfish in a tank together, this has worked for me in the past when avoiding the same genus and adding them at the same time. But I personally consider a 180 to be too small of a tank size to attempt this situation, primarily because there are very few large Angelfish which make for a good fit in a 180 gallon tank. I chose the Majestic for its behavior and maximum size, making it a much better fit than the Blue Ring, Queen, or other favorites of mine.
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Old 10-04-2011, 04:54 PM   #17
 
Thanks, Pasfur! Your response was very helpful.
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Old 11-01-2011, 03:04 AM   #18
 
Thanks for the informative post, great job
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Old 11-01-2011, 07:55 AM   #19
 
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i have got to ask, what does the drain in the sandbed lead to? and can you please post a sump picture?
You guys were asking about the "drain" in the sandbed and were concerned about my system overflowing. I have finally figured things out! I have two systems: an open system and a closed system. The open system comprises an internal overflow that makes its way into the sump and through a protein skimmer, and the water is returned via a return pipe at the top of the tank (you can't see it in the picture).

The drain in the sandbed is part of the closed system, where water circulates through pipes and another filter and a UV sterilizer and then is pumped back into the tank. The closed system provides water circulation in place of powerheads. So, there's no danger of flooding when you turn it off, since the water just sits suspended in the closed system, and the water that "drains" from the sandbed never makes its way into the sump.

Hope that made sense!
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