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Old 01-17-2009, 03:21 PM   #41
 
Hmmm.... I think this is an interesting project... While I don't agree that people shouldn't eat animals, I do agree that we should treat them with respect. For that reason I only buy captive-bred specimens for my marine tank (which I don't eat, but I consider it to be less stressful on the fish and the environment).

If you're going to attempt this, then just be sure you're in it for the long haul... Compared to being improperly cared for and experiencing a slow, agonizing death by the hand of a well-intentioned caretaker; I think being scalded for 1/2 a second in boiling water would be a great way to go... (Heck, I would rather be boiled than ripped apart alive by the numerous marine animals that naturally feed on lobsters!).

Anyways you're probably sick of "advice", so back to your questions... To do this cheaply I would build a shallow tank out of blocks (the large cement blocks used in building construction). Since lobsters are bottom dwellers make the tank shallow and have as much bottom area as possible. Build the tank into a basement floor or something so that you can see the tank from above only. Paint the inside with a waterproof pool paint a white or blue color so you can see the lobster. I wouldn't use sand and a small amount of live rock should suffice if you can use that to seed other base rocks, perhaps just enough to make a few caves in the middle. It would also help to have the tank be circular, since lobsters are known to shoot backwards at alarming speeds and having a circular tank would reduce the impact of ramming into a wall. My thought here is to rely on insulation for keeping the water cool. Find out what the particular temperature and salinity requirements of different lobster species are (I'm sure there are a few varieties available at different stores) and get one that you can reasonably afford to care for. I don't think you should just proclaim that cost is not an issue because eventually it will be... Since they are scavengers I don't think you'll have much trouble feeding them... I think you'll have to be careful though and feel them fish/mollusks or other meaty foods in a feeding trap of sorts so that the mess is contained and you can remove the leftovers when the lobster is finished and it doesn't pollute the water. Filtration should be simple enough, but you will probably need less flow, but plenty of aeration.

Another idea to aid you is to call your local grocers and fish markets and ask whether the lobsters they sell are caught or farmed... While it doesn't help the farmed animals I think consuming farmed animals is generally better than disrupting the delicate natural habitats. Do some research yourself on the costs and quality of each type of lobster and maybe you could convince some of the stores to switch to farmed lobsters. Good luck.

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Old 01-17-2009, 03:30 PM   #42
 
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Onefish is probably right on, if not on the lesser side of the money your spending. This is just silly.
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Old 01-17-2009, 03:41 PM   #43
 
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I only buy captive-bred specimens for my marine tank (which I don't eat, but I consider it to be less stressful on the fish and the environment).

If you're going to attempt this, then just be sure you're in it for the long haul... Compared to being improperly cared for and experiencing a slow, agonizing death by the hand of a well-intentioned caretaker; I think being scalded for 1/2 a second in boiling water would be a great way to go... (Heck, I would rather be boiled than ripped apart alive by the numerous marine animals that naturally feed on lobsters!).

I wouldn't use sand and a small amount of live rock should suffice if you can use that to seed other base rocks, perhaps just enough to make a few caves in the middle Filtration should be simple enough, but you will probably need less flow, but plenty of aeration.
Right on, buying captive bred animals is the way to go. In the wild some lobsters form a simbiodic relationship with eels. The lobsters sit outside the eels hole and when a predator comes to eat the lobster the eel comes out and eats the predator, pretty cool huh?
I actually disagree on the sand, live rock and "filtration" issue. These things if done correctly are your "filtration." You may even want to consider a quality protien skimmer as well.
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Old 01-17-2009, 04:40 PM   #44
 
OK so i gotta put my 2 cents in on this, I am an animal lover but this does seem a lil odd. I understand what you want to do, but this of this: The lobster is already dieing from the way it it treated, and like someone said you keeping it would only prolong how thsi animal suffers. ANd what if u got it home and NOTHING was right for it? How would you feel about that, that u didnt save it but coused it to die? I sat the best thing to do is boycot the store/company untill they improve the way they are treated becouse no matter what you do people will eat animals.
From the tanks u have you have never delt with salt water animals before, so how ready are u to care of an animal that no one really knows about? BUt i do say congrats on you wanting to do this and its nice to know that people care, if u REALLY want to do this i would try contacting a aquarum and see what info a peron there can give you, and maybe they can also help u buy taking the lobster in there place.
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Old 01-17-2009, 05:58 PM   #45
 
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a bucket of salt is about $50 and makes up about 160 gallons give or take. Thats 10x(+) buckets to begin with with about 1 bucket for a water change.

$500 to just get salt in it, RO water is .50 (a gallon) at my LFS (unless you make your own where a unit cost about $100-200+) a unit to handle that size tank would prob. be in the (300-400+ range)
1,000 gallon tank is going to need vortechs for flow which are $400 powerheads, if not atleast Koralia4s or 5s, a refractometer, test kits, sand isnt cheap, a custom metal stand isnt cheap, live rock goes for $5-10 a pound! your going to need ATLEAST 1,000lbs at the minimum to act as your filtration which 1,000 x 5-10 = $5,000-10,000. Even if you buy low quality base rock at $2 a pound that is still $2,000. Plus various other things at expense. Im just putting prices out there so you can realize if you want to do this how much your really going to need to save and what your going to need.
Thanks, I know! i'm just not sure how I'm gonna get the money. I mean I raise that much for animal shelters in a few months, but idk how to riase that 4 myself! lol..... thanks tho
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Old 01-17-2009, 08:09 PM   #46
 
This is going to be quite a project, and expensive, too!!
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Old 01-17-2009, 09:02 PM   #47
 
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the 10,000 USD you will spend to buy a setup like that and then kill the 1 lobster could of been used to save 700+lobsters and release them!
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Old 01-27-2009, 01:07 AM   #48
 
I would like to say: this was very entertaining :).
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