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Don't know what fish to put in SW tank. Please help.
Old 11-22-2010, 09:48 AM   #21
 
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The "Live Decor:" is something I have not planned in yet. It was simply a catagory. Things like live rock, corals, live sand, etc. I don't know what I will do for the live decor. I think maybe I should choose the fish species first, then go from there.

I also forgot to include the lighting, which, at this point, I have no idea what to use or where to get it.

So lionfish wont work in a 55g? Not that it makes this right but, on Youtube I saw a video of a lionfish and a triggerfish eating minnows together. It was a nice video. I had literally wondered what would happen if they where kept in the same tank. Just something kind of funny. NOTE: I am not recommending or (whatever the opposite of recommending) this setup.

Have you ever heard of a four spot wrasse? Would that work? I have heard that they stay small and make excellent starter fish for beginners. Are Royal Gramma highly aggressive in a 55g? I have heard they are pretty aggressive.

No undergravel filter? I don't think that would work well with live sand.

Maybe I should figure out which fish to get before I plan my equip setup?

Thanks for helping!
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Old 11-22-2010, 09:53 AM   #22
 
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an under gravel filter will produce a TON of Nitrates and after it gets clogged (as they often do) taking it out to clean will do way more harm than good .... in saltwater the primary filtration is the Live Rock, Live sand, and a good skimmer along with your regular water changes...
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Old 11-22-2010, 10:09 AM   #23
 
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So I probably don't need to mess with an undergravel. What about the primary filtration? I am not going to have a self-filtrating reef the first several weeks it is set up. Besides that, I don't even know what a reef is made of!
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Old 11-22-2010, 10:10 AM   #24
 
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read the links from one of my previous posts.... i am not trying to be difficult just attempting to help out....
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Old 11-22-2010, 01:21 PM   #25
 
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You aren't being diffecult at ALL! If anyone is being diffecult it is me. I just haven't had alot of free time today, but I have already started reading part of the links and I am very excited about this (even more that I was!)

Thanks for being so helpful! I will post again when I finish reading the last link. Thanks bearwithfish and Pasfur! Much appreciated!
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Old 11-22-2010, 07:53 PM   #26
 
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Thanks, Pasfur!

I read your compatibility chart. Do you have a section on 55g tanks, or did I miss that? Good Job on the Chart BTW!

Anyway...
I was reading on the first part of your compatibility charts that I should set up a large reef. What are reefs made of, Live Rock?
I have never posted a compatibility chart. I do have an article on stocking & compatibility http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/s...ng-list-38579/, but it doesn't have a compatibility chart. If you were referring to my article, thank you for the kind words. If there is a compatibility chart on this forum, I'd appreciate the link.

My article actually begins with an entire page on stocking tanks under 6 feet in length. This would apply to a 55 gallon tank. Let me know if you have specific questions.
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Old 11-22-2010, 08:27 PM   #27
 
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I was refering to your article(s), Pasfur. Thanks for writing them!

So, I can mix fish from group A and B?

e.g. (55g tank)

1 Royal Gramma (Group A)
2 clownfish (Group B)
2 Flame Angel (Group B)
1 Carpenter Wrasse (Group B)

I know that in a 55g is only 3.6 groups, but I didn't know if I should round up or down. I can settle with 3 groups, though.

When it come to pairing fish, do I need to be concerned about the gender (eg M/F, M/M, F/F or does it matter?)?

Is dry rock basicly like base rock? Or is dry rock cheaper? How do I seed live rock (that isn't alive)? I have read most of the links so far. I haven't gotten hardly any time on the thread today, but I promise I will read them. They have been very helpful!

Thanks for all the great advice so far!

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Old 11-22-2010, 08:35 PM   #28
 
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Here is my 55 gallon(as far as I got)
http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/s...e-build-37705/
I have learned since but that has suggestions made by the veteran keepers here and you might see some fish mentioned you like.
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Old 11-23-2010, 05:40 AM   #29
 
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1 Royal Gramma
2 clownfish
2 Flame Angel
1 Carpenter Wrasse

When it come to pairing fish, do I need to be concerned about the gender (eg M/F, M/M, F/F or does it matter?)?

Is dry rock basicly like base rock? Or is dry rock cheaper? How do I seed live rock (that isn't alive)?

That looks like an excellent stocking list. When you select a pair of Flame Angels, they will pursue each other a bit for the first day or 2, deciding who is the female and who is the male. After one of the 2 becomes submissive, they are a sight to watch swim in pairs.

Base rock is generally a non porous, dense rock which many hobbyists waste money on forming the base of their reef. Dry rock is much less expensive, very light weight, very porous, and quickly becomes live when placed in an aquarium with actual live rock. See my 180 build thread for an example:
http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/s...r-build-21979/
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Old 11-24-2010, 01:23 AM   #30
 
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Are you saying that 4 groups of fish is fine, or 3?

If 4 is ok for a 55g tank, I need to reconsider the capenter wrasse. I think it is a beautiful fish and everything but, I don't want to have to pay $50 for that certain fish. I found tank-bred clowns (ocellaris) for $15. That sounds like a good price for me. Flame Angels (on the same site) where $36 (ouch, that's a $72 pair), and the Royal Gramma was $15 (same site).

I don't know if it is Ok to post the name of the site on the thread, so please post back if you know if it is ok or not. And if you can recommend sites, I will look into it.

I have my breath held at this point. My finaciual support seems to be shakey. My parents want me to set this up for highschool credit. They want to make sure I know exactly what I am doing. I estimate this project will cost no less than $300 (maybe more). I think 1 dead fish, and my finaciual support will probably crash. Even with the small income I make I won't have money for the SW tank and the South American Amazon (FW) tank I am setting up soon.

I think the longer it takes for me to get my friends tank (that I still don't know for sure the size), the more nervious my parents are getting.

Oh well, I guess that is just a warning that it might all fall apart. I really don't think it will (I have always found a way to care for my FW fish when I was broke), but it might, so that is just a caution. I guess I can always add on slowly. I think with my determination (and alot of their cash) I can make this work out. Thanks for being here every step of the way!

(just a note: I may not have access to internet through saturday)
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