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Can sharks live in big ponds?
Old 04-05-2013, 05:01 PM   #11
 
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I'm sorry, I don't think you'll be able to get a shark...unless, I think, there is a shark that's under 3 yards (I think). I'm not sure and have no idea about this, but maybe if it was small enough and the pool was huge enough and you had official permission as well as a suitable environment and a good food supplies.
But again I know practically nothing about sharks so my opinion is not the most reliable!
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Old 04-05-2013, 10:21 PM   #12
 
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So you want to keep a shark, that grow to three meter long, very aggressive, shark in a 60 foot long 20 feet deep pond?? How are you planning to feed it, take care of it, clean the pond, manage the water parameters?? Where would you purchase a bull shark and get a permit and, as you put it, 'become an aquarium? To be an aquarium doesn't been you have large tank, it means you have multiple tanks with staff and need a lot of knowledge or different fish species.

How are you planning on maintaining the proper climate for the shark? Bull sharks prefer tropical and subtropical climates with warmer waters. This map here (http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/galler...rk/bullmap.jpg) shows the location of bull sharks and where they live, all which have a very different climate then the UK. The UK climate is rainy for the majority of the year and relatively cold. Unless you have a huge heater you will not be able to keep the water at the proper temperature.

And feeding the shark, how do you plan on managing that? You can't just throw in flakes or pellets like you would for aquarium fish. A bull shark’s diet consists of mainly bony fish and other sharks, including bull sharks, but can also consist of turtles, birds, dolphins, terrestrial mammals, crustaceans, echinoderms, squids, stingrays and the occasional bird. When they venture in freshwater there diet is even more varied and interesting. Keep in mind these fish HUNT, so you can’t just throw in the dead fish and expect them to eat them. You should even keep other species of fish in the pond so it can eat when it is hungry.

How are you going to take of it when it is sick? You can’t take it to a vet and I don't think you head over to the local pet store and pick up medicine to help it. You will need a qualified marine veterinarian to come and take care of it. Actually, if you want to keep a shark you should be qualified to take care of it. And the shark (being kept in such a small environment for a creature its size, should have check ups.

If you are still serious about keeping a bull shark, you should contact aquariums that have successfully kept them in captivity. What experience do you have dealing with other saltwater species?? They can live for 25+ years, so it a HUGE commitment.
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Old 04-06-2013, 12:20 AM   #13
 
Great post but it will fall on deaf ears IMO. This person is dead set on doing this and just looking for 1 person to say "sure, yu can do it". Hopefully noone here will do that.

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So you want to keep a shark, that grow to three meter long, very aggressive, shark in a 60 foot long 20 feet deep pond?? How are you planning to feed it, take care of it, clean the pond, manage the water parameters?? Where would you purchase a bull shark and get a permit and, as you put it, 'become an aquarium? To be an aquarium doesn't been you have large tank, it means you have multiple tanks with staff and need a lot of knowledge or different fish species.

How are you planning on maintaining the proper climate for the shark? Bull sharks prefer tropical and subtropical climates with warmer waters. This map here (http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/galler...rk/bullmap.jpg) shows the location of bull sharks and where they live, all which have a very different climate then the UK. The UK climate is rainy for the majority of the year and relatively cold. Unless you have a huge heater you will not be able to keep the water at the proper temperature.

And feeding the shark, how do you plan on managing that? You can't just throw in flakes or pellets like you would for aquarium fish. A bull sharkís diet consists of mainly bony fish and other sharks, including bull sharks, but can also consist of turtles, birds, dolphins, terrestrial mammals, crustaceans, echinoderms, squids, stingrays and the occasional bird. When they venture in freshwater there diet is even more varied and interesting. Keep in mind these fish HUNT, so you canít just throw in the dead fish and expect them to eat them. You should even keep other species of fish in the pond so it can eat when it is hungry.

How are you going to take of it when it is sick? You canít take it to a vet and I don't think you head over to the local pet store and pick up medicine to help it. You will need a qualified marine veterinarian to come and take care of it. Actually, if you want to keep a shark you should be qualified to take care of it. And the shark (being kept in such a small environment for a creature its size, should have check ups.

If you are still serious about keeping a bull shark, you should contact aquariums that have successfully kept them in captivity. What experience do you have dealing with other saltwater species?? They can live for 25+ years, so it a HUGE commitment.
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Old 04-06-2013, 09:17 AM   #14
 
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I am very sorry for not telling you before but my perants have got a very big property which has a pond which is 500 feet from one side to another! Unfortunatly for them it was in the countryside and the nearest town was 20 kilometers from their house and my house is 3 kilometers from the nearest town. So my perants asked me to own their property and them to own my property.And of cours I said yes! So I now own a enormus pond.

Thank you pearl2011! This quote tells you how big my new pond is (and its 15 meters deep).
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Old 04-06-2013, 09:31 AM   #15
 
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That would make an awesome cherry shrimp pond
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Old 04-06-2013, 10:17 AM   #16
 
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Thank you pearl2011! This quote tells you how big my new pond is (and its 15 meters deep).
This is the third time you have changed the dimensions and depth of the "pond"

Sorry to say but after asking someone who works as a vet for DEFRA (UK Government Department responsible for Environment and Animal Welfare on imported species) there is no chance whatsoever you will get the required permits to be able to import a bull shark to the UK.

London Aquarium have to have their sharks checked on a weekly basis by law, at a cost of £650 per shark and once every 3 months a comprehensive check at £3,500 per shark. There are very specific requirements on their care and nothing even comes close in having it in a pond outdoors.
Physically buying the shark is going to be around £20,000, so yearly you are looking at an enormous cost when you factor food in.

To heat that quantity of water is not something you could even contemplate doing without a dedicated sub station. The environment in Wales is nowhere near warm enough at all to sustain a shark even in summer and it snows in Winter so you would need to heat the water then.

I would strongly urge you as other members have, not to persue this idea anymore.
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Old 04-06-2013, 11:13 AM   #17
 
If he has umlimited funds and the means to keep a Shark in a Pond, there is absolutey no reason why he can't. Its big enough for the fish. Its his money and we have no reason to shun his idea, he asked if it can be done. The answer is yes, it can be done.
He would need industrial sized (large public aquarium) equipment to run this pond of his, along with the heaters and everything else that we use in small quanitities. Money is the ultimate decider here, not us.
Its up to him to do the research in his country for laws on keeping such an animal, not ours to approve or disapprove.
People have closed off a bedroom in their house and turned it into a SW Tank with Sharks in it, his pond is more than big enough to accomodate a large Shark.
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Old 04-06-2013, 11:36 AM   #18
 
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Thank you pearl2011! This quote tells you how big my new pond is (and its 15 meters deep).
Could we get some pictures of it?? And how are you planning to filter, heat, clean the water, get more water for the pond when you change the water? And could you even afford it? If you cant answer these questions, you shouldn't be keeping the animal.
It doesn't matter the size of the pond, bull sharks are not meant to be kept in ponds, regardless of the size. It might be able to survive, but not thrive. You could live in a closet, but would you be and healthy and enjoying life to the fullest? No. Sharks should be left in the ocean.


And you what experience do you have keeping marine life?
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Old 04-06-2013, 11:42 AM   #19
 
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It doesn't matter the size of the pond, bull sharks are not meant to be kept in ponds, regardless of the size. It might be able to survive, but not thrive. You could live in a closet, but would you be and healthy and enjoying life to the fullest? No. Sharks should be left in the ocean.
I'm sorry but by that logic, none of us should be keeping ANY fish. The aquariums that we're able to provide are nowhere near the size of lakes or rivers that the fish we keep come from.
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Old 04-06-2013, 11:55 AM   #20
 
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I'm sorry but by that logic, none of us should be keeping ANY fish. The aquariums that we're able to provide are nowhere near the size of lakes or rivers that the fish we keep come from.
Money cures all ills. If you have it, you can build it. You've seen some crazy huge tanks, this is no different.
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