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Old 02-20-2010, 06:33 PM   #11
 
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For sand bed I wouldn't suggest anything deeper than 4 inches... the problem is that cat sharks like to dig and rummage in the sand bed looking for food. Because of the denitrification process being what it is, how it functions, etc. that shark would be releasing all of those gas pockets into the main tank, which will create for some heavily toxic conditions for that animal and any other in the tank.

When it comes to other fish with the cat shark, that may be tricky. The cat sharks, by nature, are predatory and have a mouth full of very sharp teeth (capable of breaking through shell fish). They also are a very shy animal. When it comes to providing the proper environment for the shark that is going to leave very little shelter for any species of fish that goes into the tank... which is likely to mean the fish becomes food at some point. Let me give this some thought. If I can come up with a species of fish that would work in that size tank with a cat shark I will surely post about it.

As for filtration, I also would not go with something like in that link you posted, Pasfur. Sorry, but after keeping a number of species of cat sharks over the years I don't feel that would be sufficient or practical. I have asked my husband to help me write up a post about the type of filtration needed for something such as this, but neither of us has time to sit and type it all out right now. I will be back later tonight or tomorrow sometime to do that. I am going to strongly advise the use of a 75 gallon refugium on this system if you're going to consider the cat shark.

I'll be back later with filtration details for you. If its ok, I'd also like to pm you about where to find a marbled or bali cat shark without too much difficulty, and its a reputable place to get them from... if you can find a way to do it. The place only sells to wholesalers, so I would have to give you some specific names and contact info/ideas in order for you to obtain one. (thats why I can't post it here in the open thread)
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Old 02-21-2010, 09:54 AM   #12
 
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As for filtration, I also would not go with something like in that link you posted, Pasfur. Sorry, but after keeping a number of species of cat sharks over the years I don't feel that would be sufficient or practical.
I do want to be clear, however, that I was not recommending that CPR filter system. I was just trying to give a picture of a concept to clarify what I was describing. A much larger system would be necessary than what is shown in that picture, in my opinion.

In any case, I see no possible way to avoid biological filtration on a system with this large amount of waste. There are only so many filtration concepts in existence, so you certainly have my interest peaks on your recommendation.
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Old 02-24-2010, 01:38 PM   #13
 
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First thing, I apologize for the length of time between my posts. Home life has been very busy lately. I try to get here as often as I can, so I ask that everyone please bear with me.

Next I'd like to address Pasfur'sr reference to biological filtration. Bacteria breakdown of waste is "biological filtration". Live rock & live sand help provide for biological filtration. Adding extra biological filtration by way of a filtration unit is more what we're discussing. Whether we set up a filtration unit or not in any aquatic environment, there is still some degree of biological filtration happening if there are surfaces that are always wet, oxygen for the bacteria to thrive, and food to keep the bacteria going.

Rob and I have not had the chance to sit down and map out the filtration system for this type of set up yet, we will get to it as soon as time allows.

In the mean time, maybe Pasfur could help take over with some instructions about setting up a proper refugium? Again, I would strongly suggest a 75 gallon tank/vat for this, deep sand bed (about 6 inches) and caulerpa... and some good lighting to promote the caulerpa growth. A few pieces of live rock in there would also help.

I'll be back as soon as I can get here.
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Old 02-24-2010, 01:47 PM   #14
 
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Next I'd like to address Pasfur'sr reference to biological filtration. Bacteria breakdown of waste is "biological filtration". Live rock & live sand help provide for biological filtration. Adding extra biological filtration by way of a filtration unit is more what we're discussing. Whether we set up a filtration unit or not in any aquatic environment, there is still some degree of biological filtration happening if there are surfaces that are always wet, oxygen for the bacteria to thrive, and food to keep the bacteria going.
To avoid confusion, i want to elaborate on this. It is true that live rock and sand provide biological filtration, but it is a passive biological breakdown, rather than forced flow, which is what occurs in a sump system and other man made biological filter units. Also, live rock and sand are capable of denitrification, reducing nitrates into nitrogen gas. This is why we always preach live rock and sand as the only method of biological filtration on a marine system.

Wake is our resident refugium guy. I will pm him to join this thread.
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Old 02-24-2010, 04:15 PM   #15
 
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Old 02-24-2010, 04:22 PM   #16
 
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I am on agreement with bettababy's idea of a fuge. I would personally stay away from caulerpa, as I had some go asexual on me (I was away for a week an when I got back, blam! caulerpa!). My tank was covered.

I personally use cheato and another (name escapes me, i'll update when I find it). I keep a 5" sand bed and shine a 6500k light in there. I keep a few pounds of live rock in the fuge also to give a place for pods to reproduce, and add a little biological filtration to the sump. My fuge is 15 gallons, ten percent of the display.
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Old 03-24-2010, 04:57 PM   #17
 
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I should have read this!! I asked a bamboo shark tank size question and wasted a thread. ;D
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